Talk:Trombone

20th-century orchestras

Since trombones are simply standard in modern orchestras (and compositions), what is that list even adding? Special-T (talk) 13:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Nothing, I say nuke it. After fluffing about on the periphery instruments, I should really roll my sleeves up and get stuck into this article... there's so much to do (see above). — Jon (talk) 03:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Agreed, it's 100% standard. Qwertyismy (talk) 23:18, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Related Instruments

I say add in Bass Trombone as well. By the way, I'm a trombone player. So I'm going through and fact checking. ClownPierce number 1 fan (talk) 06:25, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Categories

A recent edit added a lot of categories that are redundant, or sub-categories of one of the others already listed. I've never understood when redundant categories are acceptable, so maybe someone who has a better sense of that can clean it up. - Special-T (talk) 18:52, 27 October 2026 (UTC)

I removed the ones that seemed to be clearly unnecessary. - Special-T (talk) 13:01, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

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Poor and amateurish information

In this paragraph:

"One of the most significant changes was the development of the F-attachment trigger. Through the mid-20th century there was no need for orchestral trombonists to use instruments with the F attachment trigger. As contemporary composers such as Mahler began to write lower passages for the trombone, the trigger became necessary.":

1. Calling it by the slangy name "trigger," which only trombonists tend to use, without explaining that it is a valve is amateurish and omits essential information, such as that it typically lowers the overall pitch of the instrument by a fourth.

2. Even today, tenor trombones without the valve are not infrequently used by, especially, first trombonists, and sometimes second trombonists, in orchestras. The valve has never been "necessary" for tenor trombonists. If the development of one and then two valves on the bass trombone is meant, this should be explained more clearly.

3. There is no explanation of the fact that the advantage of the valve has at least as much to do with reducing large slide movements as with playing in the low register. The low notes obtainable only with the valve are almost never found in tenor trombone parts in orchestral music.

4. Mahler died in 1911, so referring to him in the way done here, implying that in the second half of the 20th century he started writing lower trombone parts than anyone had done before, makes no sense. And there are plenty of examples of low tenor trombone parts in music written before 1950.

5. The sentence preceding this paragraph: "Despite the overall trend towards larger bore instruments, many European trombone makers prefer a slightly smaller bore than their American counterparts." -- is, as far as I know, not true. What evidence supports it, in the form of specific designs by specific manufacturers? JohnMason (talk) 21:57, 5 November 2026 (UTC)