Talk:The Stourbridge Line

Orphaned references in Stourbridge Railroad

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Stourbridge Railroad's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "drury":

• From Lehigh and New England Railroad: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 171–172. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 108–110. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Lehigh Valley Railroad: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 172–175. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Erie Railroad: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 129–135. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Reading Company: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 275–277. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Interstate Commerce Commission: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 164–166. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Pennsylvania Railroad: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 251–259. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From Baltimore and Ohio Railroad: Drury, George H. (1994). The Historical Guide to North American Railroads: Histories, Figures, and Features of more than 160 Railroads Abandoned or Merged since 1930. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 35–40. ISBN 0-89024-072-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
• From New York, Susquehanna and Western Railway: Drury, George H. (1992). The Train-Watcher's Guide to North American Railroads: A Contemporary Reference to the Major railroads of the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Waukesha, Wisconsin: Kalmbach Publishing. pp. 173–175. ISBN 0-89024-131-7. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Agenoria

The article includes a quite referring - wrongly - to the Stourbridge Lion as "the first commercial locomotive on rails in the western hemisphere" (emphasis added). Most locos to pre-date this ran East of the Greenwich Meridian, or were experimental, rather than commercial. The Agenoria, however, ran before the ('}}Lion, did so West of the meridian (i.e. "in the western hemisphere"), and was part of a batch (the first?) of locos produced commercially. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:20, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Simply untrue. Greenwich is East of Stockton and the NE coalfields.

That would also be to ignore several other steam-hauled railways in the UK. History does not follow the "Trevithick-Locomotion-Rocket-Brunel" timeline that is so generally, and incompletely, held.

Besides which, this Greenwich meridian distinction is surely something rather too subtle for the Wayne County Chamber of Commerce. They're just meaning "USA vs barbarians of no importance" Andy Dingley (talk) 13:38, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Map

I'm having a devil of a time trying to get a map created. The relation is up in OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/19476256 Apparently though since I just created it, it will take up to two days to appear in the article properly. Will check back obviously. Kether83 (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Map struggles continue but I'm working with some OSM help to get it going. I won't let it fester too long; I'll put a screenshot of the "OSM Relation" map up if this lingers much more as an issue.

Also going to find solid references for the Erie Wyoming branch because this article doesn't even mention it, which is kind of astonishing to me Kether83 (talk) 14:20, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Map created, routemap created, references added, looking much better. Kether83 (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)