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Latest comment: 5 months ago by Launchballer in topic Knee-jerk reversal of edit

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 17:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tasha Ghouri; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply

  • The article is new enough and long enough. I didn't detect any close paraphrasing, and the hooks are all cited inline and verified. I note the nominator's preference for ALT1, but given it seems more niche compared to the other hooks (Countdown, which I've never heard of before, may not be recognizable to non-UK or non-European readers), my preference is any of the other hooks. I do note that ALT3 is slightly inaccurate: the article and source say that Camilla was a participant in Ghouri's class, not that Ghouri directly taught her how to dance, so if we go with ALT3, a minor revision may be necessary. The reason why I am not approving this yet, hence the question mark icon, is I wonder if additional hooks could be proposed here regarding Ghouri's deafness and her recoding videos with her "deaf" voice getting praise. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I was just about to propose "that Queen Camilla once took part in a dance class by Tasha Ghouri", before actually googling "tasha ghouri camilla", and it turns out she simply observed it as opposed to taking part, and given that watching Strictly is probably enough of a clue I'm minded to look elsewhere for hooks.
ALT4: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri went viral in early 2024 after uploading a Get Ready With Me video to TikTok using her "deaf accent"? (Source says 'recently', actual video was January 2024.)--Launchballer 06:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Since Get Ready With Me doesn't have an article and other readers may not be familiar with it without looking it up (I had never heard of the trend before, but that could just me not being into TikTok), maybe an ALT4a with that mention removed could also work? It doesn't seem essential to the fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Get Ready With Me is clearly notable, so I could write an article about it. ALT4a: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri went viral in early 2024 after uploading a video to TikTok using her "deaf accent"?--Launchballer 22:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Tasha Ghouri/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 08:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 15:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Lots of copy tweaks to make, but a really solid start. Two minor source things to fix as well. Ping me when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 19:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

Copy changes

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Lead

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  • Titles of podcasts should be italicized. (There are three in the article, one in the lead and two further down, that need to be italicized.)
Fixed.

Life and career

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  • She was born deaf, and was initially fitted for hearing aids, before being given a single cochlear implant at Bradford Royal Infirmary just before her fifth birthday which lasted until she was sixteen and went unreplaced for five months; she later underwent speech therapy, and was unable to speak until she was five, having communicated entirely in British Sign Language until that point. What a sentence! Split this, possibly into three. Also watch for WP:CINS; I see it a few places here and in the rest of the article and will point it out.
Split into three.
  • Ghouri took up ballet aged three, and would copy the choreography of her parents' copy of the Steps album
    • CINS (remove comma)
Fixed.
    • "Copy the choreography of her parents' copy"... Woof. Consider rewording.
For now, changed the second 'copy' to 'edition'. I'll take another look in the morning.
On second thoughts, I don't think the second 'copy' is the problem, so changed it back and changed the first to 'replicate'.
  • After graduating, she moved to London, and signed to a modelling agency, and worked as a... Double CINS. Try After graduating, she moved to London, signed to a modelling agency and worked as a...
Fixed.
  • podcast that she had previously applied for Too Hot to Handle, but had been told that she "weren't right" for the programme
    • CinS remove comma
Fixed.
    • Maybe "was told"
  • "she weren't"? Try a [wasn't] in brackets depending on context from the original quote.
Changed to 'she was not', thereby taking the quote out.
  • Consider "hard-of-hearing" hyphenated as an adjective
Fixed.
  • She later dated Giovanni Pernice after the pair connected via Instagram, and met in January 2022, though their try She later dated Giovanni Pernice after the pair connected via Instagram; they met in January 2022, though their
Fixed.
  • Mind your British English: that should be programme
Fixed.
  • She later became an ambassador for Ann Summers, for whom she featured in their Christmas advert and fronted their Luminescent collection, Sisters & Seekers, a Llay-based fashion label, and Lullabellz, a Manchester-based hair extension brand. This list is in bad need of semicolons because its list entries contain commas. She later became an ambassador for Ann Summers, for whom she featured in their Christmas advert and fronted their Luminescent collection; Sisters & Seekers, a Llay-based fashion label; and Lullabellz, a Manchester-based hair extension brand.
Fixed.
  • Appearing on that day's Lorraine, Ghouri explained that she wanted to upload a video to that effect since leaving Love Island, but had not felt ready. Remove second comma (CinS)
Fixed.

Sourcing and spot checks

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  • Is there a better source than The Media Eye, a PR firm, for the LullaBellz item?
I would have said this was fine as it was being used only for what Lullabellz was (the actual BLP bit of her being involved used a different source), but replaced with The Manc.
  • 14: I initially missed this because I didn't realize that the name I was looking for was "Sense". checkY
  • 21: But within hours of recoupling it was clear Andrew still had feelings for his former partner, Tasha Ghouri, and he quickly cooled things off with Coco, checkY
  • 32: Ghouri revealed her new role as the marketplace’s “pre-loved ambassador” in a post to Instagram. Partial verification: it is not said that she is the first for them, just that she is one. checkY
Replaced with Grazia.
  • 42: Scarlett Moffatt and Stacey Solomon featured as team captains, while guests of the most recent season included Katherine Ryan, Big Brother presenter Will Best, EastEnders' Danielle Harold, Love Island's Tasha Ghouri, and Emmerdale's Danny Miller. checkY
  • 44: checkY

Encouragement: Convert {{Citation}} (CS2) to {{Cite AV media}} (CS1) for YouTube to be more aligned with the other CS1 citations throughout.

Fixed.

Images

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The lone image is cropped from a CC-BY upload by the UK government. checkY

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Knee-jerk reversal of edit

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I have reduced the infobox image size and removed reference to cochlear implant from alt text for second time as Launchballer reverted, despite being initially pinged by myself - well into my 14th year - getting me confused with someone else; please remember to assume good faith. Launchballer added the alt ext here by visually interpreting File:Tasha Ghouri 2023 (cropped).jpg.

It's not possible for any individual to make a determination of what ear jewellery may - or may not - be from an image, it is un-encyclopedic, and of course, WP:OR - inexcusable from someone with your editing duration. All that can be seen by zooming is a transparent over-ear clip, NOT any cochlear implant.

I had already checked the other source images at Flickr, and the cochlear implant is obvious here but not from a front view. Thank you for wasting my time, Launchballer; I appreciate you are Autisitic but this does not give you any special dispensation to veer away from basic WP precepts; remember, your knee-jerk rashness could well deter any well-meaning newbie.-- ~2026-94459-1 (talk) 21:41, 5 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Firstly, I did not make a 'knee-jerk' reversal - my edit summary explained the thoughts that went into it. I'd have done the same thing if Jimbo himself had made the edit - and frankly "~2026-20960-57" is a bit similar to ~2026-94459-1, is it not? Describing an image is literally what WP:Alt text says to do, and you've literally just provided evidence that she was in fact wearing her implant - perhaps the GA reviewer @Sammi Brie: would like to opine. And thirdly, implying my autism warps my judgement is a blatant personal attack, a "basic WP precept" if ever there was one.--Launchballer 10:41, 6 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Reading MOS:ALTCON, I think Launchballer is in the right. It suggests asking four questions:
  • Why is this non-text content here?
  • What information is it presenting?
  • What purpose does it fulfil?
  • If I could not use the non-text content, what words would I use to convey the same function or information?
Ghouri is deaf from birth, a fact recited in the second sentence of the lead section. The cochlear implant is mentioned five times in the article. It is just visible enough to merit inclusion in the alt text, especially in the context of who Ghouri is. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 01:40, 7 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I put it back.--Launchballer 13:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC)Reply