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Request About Deleting Sources After the Word "Country"

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I have a request about deleting the sources after the word "is a country". Because Palestine, another partially recognized country, does not have sources after the word "country". Thus I request about the deletion of the sources. ~2026-46609-81 (talk) 21:11, 27 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Not done because you have not explained how the sources given for "(Taiwan) is a country" are supposed to be invalid or unreliable simply because another article lacks such sources given. Mr Fink (talk) 21:19, 27 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
So, I wonder why is Palestine able to use country without listing any sources? ~2026-46710-77 (talk) 01:31, 28 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps that would be better discussed at Talk:Palestine, as otherwise, that's a piss poor reason to remove the sources given for this page. Mr Fink (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
https://www.unachina.org/en/article/1134?hl=en-US#:~:text=The%20resolution%20brooks%20no%20challenge%20to%20its,and%20all%20the%20organizations%20related%20to%20it ~2026-56665-21 (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Mr Fink (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 October 2026

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"Change falling below 0.8 to dropping to 0.695, making the fertility rate smaller than South Korea's" Info12374 (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 21:24, 2 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Question: why isn't Taiwan considered as an island country?

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Recently, I saw a few revisions about Taiwan for not being an [[island country]]. I wonder why is Taiwan not considered as an island country like [[Japan]] and [[Sri Lanka]] in Wikipedia? Apparently, Taiwan and its territories are all islands. Books, maps, and other sources also claim Taiwan as an island, regardless of whether it is a country or not. ~2026-54317-67 (talk) 12:32, 8 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Read the talk page archive as to why. Slatersteven (talk) 12:37, 8 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is a fair point, and I have either proposed or supported adding the "island" descriptor to "country" before as well. If I recall correctly, the main objection to the addition (with which I disagree) was that this descriptor would somehow constitute a "political statement" about the ROC. My response then and now would be that a statement of reality as it is now says nothing of any political preference of what it should be in the future. As in, it really is not a political statement unless, of course, describing reality today is a political act.
It may be worth proposing that addition again, but perhaps others can chime in with thoughts in the meantime. Butterdiplomat (talk) 09:21, 9 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Well is it an " island country" or an "archipelagic country" for a start? Slatersteven (talk) 09:52, 9 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Island country does not mean one island. Most island countries are not just one island. Butterdiplomat (talk) 00:45, 10 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Maybe, but archipelagic country is also a thing, so what is Taiwan? Slatersteven (talk) 09:40, 10 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
While technically both are accurate, most precedents favor “island country” for those centered around a main island (e.g., Malta, Sri Lanka, Cuba, Iceland). “Archipelagic” seems to be used more to describe those spread out over more smaller islands, often without one defining main island. Butterdiplomat (talk) 13:15, 13 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Do they, source, rather than OR, please? Slatersteven (talk) 13:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Well, to be fair, I was citing Wikipedia precedents for the sake of WP:PARALLELISM. Call it OR but not sure it is exactly in scope for matters of style and for this discussion.
In terms of sources, just to be complete, I don’t know that Taiwan has really been described as an archipelagic country. Plenty of examples for island country or island nation though. Butterdiplomat (talk) 13:43, 13 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
That is better, we do have RS calling it an Island country. I am still unsure why we need to say it, but as RS do there is no reason why we canot. Slatersteven (talk) 13:53, 13 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think it would be clarifying. Many English speakers (even ABC and CNN) have confused Taiwan with Thailand, and this descriptor upfront (and even in the short description) can only help.
I don't think redundancy is really an issue, and the precedents I listed above support the case for parallelism of similar country articles. Butterdiplomat (talk) 21:59, 13 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
The first paragraph already says "The combined territories under ROC control consist of 168 islands". What is gained by stating this a second time in less detail earlier in the paragraph? Why does "island" deserve precedence over the many many other adjectives that could come before "country"? CMD (talk) 12:22, 9 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Because it is a very common way to describe a country. Japan and New Zealand are prominent examples. Also serves to distinguish from Thailand and (to a lesser extent) the PRC. Butterdiplomat (talk) 00:59, 10 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
It seems Taiwan also uses "island country" to refer to itself; see 2018 comments here. Also, the usage doesn't seem to signify taking a position on ROC's status; Taiwanese officials also called Taiwan an "island country" under President Ma Ying-jeou as well. The Account 2 (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

this should be merged with the page for the roc

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they are the same entiity ~2026-54422-47 (talk) 00:12, 10 October 2026 (UTC)Reply

Care to link to the article you are talking about? Slatersteven (talk) 09:41, 10 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_(1912%E2%80%931949) Tankfarter (talk) 22:37, 13 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
That is a separate more focused topic covering a specific historical period. CMD (talk) 02:12, 14 October 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ahh well no, as this covers the period up to 1949 (assuming that is the article they meant)., This covers the period after that. Slatersteven (talk) 09:12, 14 October 2026 (UTC)Reply