Talk:Susan Swain

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Article overhaul

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Hi editors, I'm Robin and I work for Beutler Ink. I have a COI regarding this article so I am posting suggested changes to the Talk page per the guidelines for COI editing.

I propose replacing the article with this draft.

The current article has many inaccuracies, uses future looking language in violation of WP:CRYSTALBALL (e.g. "will stay on"), and does not abide by the requirements set out in WP:BLP. My version corrects these inaccuracies, adds appropriate sources, reformats the bibliography to meet Manual of Style requirements, swaps the infobox photo for a better one, and expands the infobox where possible. This diff shows the changes in detail.

Please let me know what you think. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 18:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Robin. Let me make some notes on your changes.

Removing date of birth, replacing with "1954 or 1955". Possibly reasonable. The full date is uncited in our article, and the best source I can find for it after a brief search is https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1437107/000119312519083609/d722388ddef14a.htm which is a corporate board of directors listing; so on the one hand, clearly reliable, since I suspect there are legal consequences attached to it being wrong, but on the other hand, not really "widely published". WP:BLPPRIVACY encourages us to cut birthdate down to just the year if it's not widely published, the subject complains, and we have a good source; is she complaining and can she or you give us a good source? Honestly just a tweet or a blog post "I was born in 1954" that she clearly wrote would do fine.
Removing honorary doctorate from U of Scranton in 1999 - actually, I think we should keep that one. Here are two good sources: https://nationalpress.org/judge/susan-swain/ https://news.scranton.edu/articles/2017/04/KSOM-Hall-of-Fame-2017.shtml
... more to come ... --GRuban (talk) 19:24, 27 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Starting requested edit. I cropped the image you preferred to focus on her face, rather than the podium and curtain behind her. What a great image! I wonder who found and uploaded it?

--GRuban (talk) 14:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

@GRuban: Hi, thanks for all the changes you've made so far! I am looking into the birthday question. I hadn't noticed who uploaded that photo, haha. I think it's a big improvement, thank you for cropping it down. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 20:04, 29 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

I, said the Sparrow... OK, I think I got most of what you suggested other than that. Please ping me if I missed something, or when you/she decide on the date/year thing. --GRuban (talk) 20:32, 29 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

@GRuban: Just to follow up here, I have confirmed they are fine with the article including Swain's full birthdate. Thanks for all your help, I think the article is in good shape! Cheers BINK Robin (talk) 20:12, 21 February 2025 (UTC)Reply