Talk:Super Mario Bros.

Individual reassessment

GA Reassessment

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This article was promoted to GA way back in 2007, when a lot of VG-related Wikipedia articles were filled with stuff that could now fail at WP:GAMECRUFT. For this reason, the article appears to have a ton of issues: some of the "Alternate versions" section (not all) is completely unsourced, the article is way too detailed and poorly written, and the "Reception" section is short and somewhat vague. Another major concern I have is that too much of the article is sourced to TheMushroomKingdom, which is an unreliable source (it is used on All Nippon Night SMB, SMBDX, and the "ports" section). For these reasons, I think Super Mario Bros. doesn't really meet the standards for GA today. ~ TheJoebro64 (talk) 22:59, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

To help, I'm pinging a number of contributors to this page: @Dissident93:, @Anonymous from the 21st century:, @Richardcavell:, and @ProDuct0339:. ~ TheJoebro64 (talk) 11:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

• I agree with your concerns. Super Mario Bros must have been exhaustively documented in print media - but we need access to the magazines etc to write an article. I simply don't have the resources to do that. In my view, this article falls short of Wikipedia's present standards for a satisfying article on such a notable subject. - Richard Cavell (talk) 12:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
• I also agree. Just look at what I've removed from the article in the not so distant past. (#1) and (#2). This article should really be removed from GA status until it's modernized. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:41, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Ugh, so sad to see my hard work (did a loooooot of work to get this to GA way back then) go to shit over the years thanks to fancruft. That's the internet for you. Xenon54 (talk) 15:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

If the issue was only "the Internet's fancruft", we could revert to the reviewed (2007) version, but WP's sourcing and prose standards have changed significantly in the last decade... czar 15:40, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2025

In the "Legacy" section, update the current speedrunning world record to 4:54.565 The run in question can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmkaEZeVSk The run has been verified on speedrun.com: https://www.speedrun.com/smb1 Origamiscienceguy (talk) 13:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

 Done (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 13:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

FAC Nomination consultation

Hi everyone! I’m planning to nominate Super Mario Bros. (1985) for Featured Article status. Since I’m not one of the major contributors, I wanted to consult you first and see if you have any thoughts, suggestions, or concerns about the nomination. Your feedback would be very helpful before I move forward! Thanks! CrowbarCatalyst (talk) 04:31, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Peer review

Super Mario Bros.

Previous peer review

I've listed this article for peer review because I'm preparing to nominate Super Mario Bros. (1985) for Featured Article status. As this is my first nomination, I would greatly appreciate feedback on the article’s comprehensiveness, sourcing, writing quality, and overall suitability for FAC. Thanks, CrowbarCatalyst (talk) 03:05, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

I think that the first thing that you need to do is fix the {{Citation needed}} tags by adding sources. Cos ^{(X + Z)} 16:22, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

I'll leave a couple of comments:

• You need to fix {{citation needed}} tags by adding reliable sources.
• You should remove unreliable / non-high-quality sources from the article (e.g., WP:VALNET, but there are also many more besides Valnet sources)
• The article should not rely on primary sources (Nintendo / Iwata).
• You should look for scholarly analysis of the game and books about the game and add them to the article.

Also, are you actually sure that you want to bring this article to FAC? You have zero experience at WP:GAN and WP:FAC. My suggestion would be to withdraw this PR and work on something else that is easier than this. This is, after all, one of the most known video games of all time and it'll be extremely complicated to get it to FAC status, especially if you don't have prior experience there. Also, please consider what others at FAC said. PR rules state that you must address FAC issues before bringing the article to PR and you haven't done that. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

You've also haven't even edited the article... You should really withdraw and work on something else at this point before coming to this stage. My suggestion would be to seek a WP:GAMENTOR and work on a video game article. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

I agree. As much as you want to have that article at FA level, it takes a lot of work. If you think about it, creating an article (what many Wikipedia users start with) is pretty difficult without prior editing experience but bringing an article to FA is even more so. And I don't think I've seen an editor with 1000 edits or less to bring an article to FA, or bringing an article to FA without ever having a successful GA. JuniperChill (talk) 09:24, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

Its somewhat similar to when I planned to nominate Animal Crossing: New Horizons to FAC, via a PR (which I will close shortly, since that plan is on hold) as I needed to remove some low-quality and unreliable sources, as well as adding sources from 2022 onwards. I never nominated that for FAC since its a step too much. I would not that I'm not a significant contributor to ACNH, since I only added a couple of sentences plus made some reverts. JuniperChill (talk) 16:04, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

FAC PR sidebar

I have posted this article on the FAC peer review sidebar. Please consider reviewing other articles posted there. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 04:57, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Query from Z1720

@CrowbarCatalyst: It has been over a month since you have commented on this PR. Are you still looking for comments? Z1720 (talk) 15:32, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Semi-Protected Edit Request September 2025

Platform game -> Platformer game

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{{Nihongo foot|'''''Super Mario Bros.'''''|スーパーマリオブラザーズ|Sūpā Mario Burazāzu|lead=yes|group=lower-alpha}} is a 1985 [[Platformer|platform game]] produced and directed by [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], developed and published by [[Nintendo]] for the [[Nintendo Entertainment System]] (NES). It is the successor to the 1983 arcade game ''[[Mario Bros.]]'' and the first game in the ''[[Super Mario]]'' series. Players control [[Mario]], or his brother [[Luigi (character)|Luigi]] in the multiplayer mode, to traverse the [[Mushroom Kingdom]] to rescue [[Princess Peach|Princess Toadstool]] from King Koopa (later named [[Bowser]]). They traverse [[side-scrolling]] stages while avoiding hazards such as enemies and pits and collecting [[power-up]]s such as the Super Mushroom, Fire Flower and [[Starman (Mario)|Starman]].

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{{Nihongo foot|'''''Super Mario Bros.'''''|スーパーマリオブラザーズ|Sūpā Mario Burazāzu|lead=yes|group=lower-alpha}} is a 1985 [[Platformer|platformer game]] produced and directed by [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], developed and published by [[Nintendo]] for the [[Nintendo Entertainment System]] (NES). It is the successor to the 1983 arcade game ''[[Mario Bros.]]'' and the first game in the ''[[Super Mario]]'' series. Players control [[Mario]], or his brother [[Luigi (character)|Luigi]] in the multiplayer mode, to traverse the [[Mushroom Kingdom]] to rescue [[Princess Peach|Princess Toadstool]] from King Koopa (later named [[Bowser]]). They traverse [[side-scrolling]] stages while avoiding hazards such as enemies and pits and collecting [[power-up]]s such as the Super Mushroom, Fire Flower and [[Starman (Mario)|Starman]].

24.155.147.109 (talk) 14:06, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: "Platformer game" is not correct. It's either "platformer" or "platform game". Day Creature (talk) 17:04, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Ah, it just sounds weird to me. Didn't know it was correct :P 24.155.147.109 (talk) 17:47, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Theoretical human limit

i personally believe that "theoretical human limit" in the speedrunning section should be replaced with "Best time possible under any% ruleset"— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iate5watermelonsbecauseithoughttherewereapples (talk • contribs) 09:50, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

The community considers 4:54.265 the "best possible time" because no one has manage to beat that time in seven years, but speedruns change and new things get discovered all the time. In fact, arbitrary code execution was discovered in this game only a few months ago. If that had managed to save time, we would have had a new "best possible time". Better to leave it only as "theoretical". Also "any% ruleset" is pretty heavy jargon, people who haven't been exposed to speedrunning before do not know what that means. Whipmywillows (talk) 17:23, 18 August 2026 (UTC)