Talk:September 11 attacks

Fifth Plane?

Has there been discussion of whether we should write about the possibility of a fifth plane, United flight 23, being involved in the attack? It seems that a mention would be appropriate here, along with an article about the incident and subsequent investigations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-26517-92 (talk)

I agree, there should be a discussion and possibly an article. There has bean mention of a possible fifth plane, which never got in the air, in books and a TV program. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to initiate a new entry. David J Johnson (talk) 16:01, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

The FBI report, which got consumed into the 9/11 Commission Report, does not mention anything about a fifth plane. Where are your sources? Butterscotch5 (talk) 17:45, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

Hello Butterscotch5, thanks for the comment. Apologies for a very quick reply, but I seem ultra - busy at the moment. Anyway, I accessed info regarding the possibility of a potential hijack of United 23 from "The Eleventh Day" by Anthony Summers & Robin Swan. I have usually found the authors to be a reliable source previously. Additionally, I came accross a report, mentioning FBI interest in this potential case in a publication called floridabulldog.org, This report was fairly recent and I have no idea how reliable this might be. There was also a TV program on UK television, in the last couple of years; although I believe it was orginally, a US production, which interviewed the Captain and crew members of United 23. They seemed convinced that had the flight not been recalled to the gate, they too would be hijacked. I regret I cannot rememeber the TV station, or the program name. In haste and best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 13:17, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Didn't Summers also write a book about JFK? I forget the name, some conspiracy tosh. The name is familiar - maybe more famous for something else, IDK. Tweet7 (talk) 18:58, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

trump not attending ground zero

edit request and joe biden would now no longer be the only president to attend ground zero as trump would instead attend the pentagon as multiple news sources reports this Afonya64 (talk) 20:43, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm misreading what you're saying. There was never a case when Biden was the only president to attend ground zero. Both George W. Bush, and Obama did during their respective terms.

𝓦𝓲𝓴𝓲𝓹𝓮𝓭𝓲𝓪𝓘𝓼𝓝𝓸𝓽𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭-𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓑𝔂𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓞𝓷𝓵𝔂 (talk) 01:30, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

thats what this article says that biden was the only president. Afonya64 (talk) 06:14, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok, let's regroup a little and look at the what it did say. This is the statement (the only reference I can find):

Smaller services are held in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, which are usually attended by the First Lady. In 2023, Joe Biden did not attend services in the affected areas, instead marking the day in Anchorage, Alaska, the only U.S. president to do so since the attacks.

Your original phrasing was this:

"joe biden would now no longer be the only president to attend ground zero"

I believe you meant

"joe biden would now no longer be the only president to NOT attend ground zero",

Yes?

𝓦𝓲𝓴𝓲𝓹𝓮𝓭𝓲𝓪𝓘𝓼𝓝𝓸𝓽𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭-𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓑𝔂𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓞𝓷𝓵𝔂 (talk) 17:30, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

yes, apologies as i did write that at a late time and was tired Afonya64 (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

If it's no longer the case we should, remove it. Slatersteven (talk) 09:48, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

It's a compound error I think. I'm trying to ferret it out above. 𝓦𝓲𝓴𝓲𝓹𝓮𝓭𝓲𝓪𝓘𝓼𝓝𝓸𝓽𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭-𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓑𝔂𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓞𝓷𝓵𝔂 (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok, I never got an answer from OP, so I dug a little into this (it's not my original statement nor any gripe, but it got me interested) and part of the problem seems to stem from the usage of "ground zero" meaning only the Towers. The Pentagon was also a target, and when a leader (Biden, Trump, whomever) chooses to forego the Twin Towers (ground zero) for the Pentagon, I can't quite see any "there" there. I'd be fine with a chart of who visited what and when, but for now, I don't really see a point in having the article call it out either way. Should be pulled unless someone else has a fresh perspective on what the sources say that I missed.

𝓦𝓲𝓴𝓲𝓹𝓮𝓭𝓲𝓪𝓘𝓼𝓝𝓸𝓽𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭-𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼𝓡𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓮𝔀𝓮𝓭𝓑𝔂𝓟𝓮𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓞𝓷𝓵𝔂 (talk) 18:10, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 September 2026

After the Mayor of NYC disclosed secret documents, you must amend the event on9/11 ~2026-49494-37 (talk) 01:57, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Meters (talk) 02:07, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

I have tagged the relevant section. Szxq (talk) 16:55, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

I wanted to add a link to Korean Air Flight 085 in the text, but the article is edited. Can someone adds a link? Thx Jop2~enwiki (talk) 13:42, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Please read the message by Meters above 😭 Szxq (talk) 15:30, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 September 2026

I wanted to add, The Role of the Army Reserve n the 11 September Attacks: New York City: https://www.usar.army.mil/Portals/98/Documents/historycorner/NY%209-11.pdf to the site in recognition of the Reserve in responding after the attacks. BEricksen (talk) 22:24, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. What specific text should be added to reflect the source? LizardJr8 (talk) 01:01, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

In the whole page only in references says the day of the week, Tuesday.

Please add the day of the week when this happened. ~2026-52760-36 (talk) 08:07, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

Why, I am unsure this is common practice. Slatersteven (talk) 12:40, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

"Suicide attacks" to "Terrorist attacks" in first sentence

Someone might have already raised this, but are these not simply terrorist attacks? An overwhelming amount of reliable sources refer to these attacks as terrorist attacks, which I'd be happy to link here. Even at the time, these were mostly referred to as terrorist attacks, not mere suicide attacks. Yikes9272 (talk) 16:51, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

I am unsure there is much of a difference. Slatersteven (talk) 16:59, 3 October 2026 (UTC)