Talk:Polanski
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| On 30 March 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Polanski (surname) to Polański. The result of the discussion was moved to Polanski. |
Requested move 30 March 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to Polanski per consensus. Polanski is the most common English spelling of the name, and since it already redirects here, no disambiguator is needed. (non-admin closure) {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 13:16, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
Polanski (surname) → Polański – Polański is a Polish surname, and majority of entires use original Polish spelling instead of English misspelling. I don't see a reason why the article should have the incorrect spelling as the default. Also, I think the "surname" part is not necessary, since there's no other "Polanski (disambiguation)". I know that previously "Polanski" led to Roman Polanski, but I don't think he is automatically the most notable person of this surname, and if someone's looking for him, they can just find him in this list. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:42, 30 March 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:13, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support. The article is about a Polish surname Polański, not a disambig page, where majority rules. --Altenmann >talk 20:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support as I don't see why there should be a parenthesis there when the same term without a parenthesis redirects to that page.
⹃Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 01:08, 31 March 2026 (UTC) - Move to Polanski. This is the more common orthography in English (it's not a misspelling) and the majority use on the page (six Polanski, one Polanska, two Polańska and only one Polański). Station1 (talk) 03:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- English orthoraphy is irrelevant, because it is Polish surname and the article is about a Polish surname. "Polanski" is not Polish surname, it is its rendering abroad, as the source cited says. --Altenmann >talk 06:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- I agree Polanski is not Polish, but this is not Polish WP. See WP:ENGLISHTITLE. The origin of the name is Polish, but there are French, American and British people listed. The accent over the n is meaningless to most English speakers. Station1 (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Let me rephrase . The surname is a word. The article is about the word, and the correct spelling of the word is with diacritics, just like "Née" or "Raison d'être" or multitudes of other "English Wikipedia" articles about words with diacritics. The "eaningless" argument ad ignorantium does not hold wated. --Altenmann >talk 00:49, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- I disagree that the (only) correct spelling of the word is with diacritics. It is equally correct without diacritics in English, and more common. Station1 (talk) 01:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- You cannot agree or disagree with Polsih spelling of a word. Formally, Polanski and Polański are different surnames, with "Polanski" derived from Polański, just like Šubert and Shubert (surname).--Altenmann >talk 01:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- We don't disagree about the Polish spelling. We disagree about the English orthography. Šubert and Shubert (surname) and Schubert (surname) are three separate articles because they are spelled differently, while Polański redirects to Polanski (surname), where the derivation is noted. Station1 (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- There is no issue about "English orthpography". Polish immigrants to America simplified their orthography, to the extent of truncation, eg. Zaleski to Zales; there are even more drastic examples, especially with longer "Szczebrzeszyński"-type surnames. However you cannot claim "Polanski" is a Polish surname. It is not. It is "surname of Polish origin". The Polish surname is "Polański", and the article is about it, ncluding its mutations. --Altenmann >talk 08:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- We don't disagree about the Polish spelling. We disagree about the English orthography. Šubert and Shubert (surname) and Schubert (surname) are three separate articles because they are spelled differently, while Polański redirects to Polanski (surname), where the derivation is noted. Station1 (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- You cannot agree or disagree with Polsih spelling of a word. Formally, Polanski and Polański are different surnames, with "Polanski" derived from Polański, just like Šubert and Shubert (surname).--Altenmann >talk 01:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- I disagree that the (only) correct spelling of the word is with diacritics. It is equally correct without diacritics in English, and more common. Station1 (talk) 01:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Let me rephrase . The surname is a word. The article is about the word, and the correct spelling of the word is with diacritics, just like "Née" or "Raison d'être" or multitudes of other "English Wikipedia" articles about words with diacritics. The "eaningless" argument ad ignorantium does not hold wated. --Altenmann >talk 00:49, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- I agree Polanski is not Polish, but this is not Polish WP. See WP:ENGLISHTITLE. The origin of the name is Polish, but there are French, American and British people listed. The accent over the n is meaningless to most English speakers. Station1 (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- English orthoraphy is irrelevant, because it is Polish surname and the article is about a Polish surname. "Polanski" is not Polish surname, it is its rendering abroad, as the source cited says. --Altenmann >talk 06:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a guideline on this? Surname articles and lists are inconsistent and whether to split or combine and which form to title the article with seems to relate in part to the number of potential entries, similar to the consideration for dab pages. I'm leaning Polanski but I'm sympathetic to Polański. The article briefly describes the name's origin and then lists one Polański, one de Polanska, two Polańskas, and six Polanskis. We've chosen to split in the case of Šubert, Šubrt, Shubert (surname), and Schubert (surname). Martínez is a true dab page and gets the diacritic despite being a 50/50 split. Nguyen, sans diacritics, is a full-fledged article with multiple sections and >20 references (but List of people with surname Nguyễn uses the Vietnamese orthography). —Myceteae🍄🟫 (talk) 03:23, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
See also: Similar discussion at Talk:Wolanski#Requested move 30 March 2026. —Myceteae🍄🟫 (talk) 03:27, 4 April 2026 (UTC)- Move to Polanski, in absence of any guidance whether the original form of a name, or the use by its entries, overrides WP:COMMONNAME. Per WP:DIACRITICS follow the common form in English which is Polanski per ngrams, with "Polanski" already redirecting here so "(surname)" isn't needed. DankJae 03:15, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Move to Polanski per Station1 and DankJae. I find these arguments more persuasive and that title aligns with the article content. —Myceteae🍄🟫 (talk) 14:09, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Editors agree to disambiguate; relisting to allow further discussion on whether to disambiguate to Polanski or Polański BilledMammal (talk) 00:13, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Move to Polanski, unnecessary disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 17:22, 7 April 2026 (UTC)