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1. Why does this article say that the Nazis were right-wing?
Because that is the consensus of reliable sources, in this case historians and political scientists. Almost all historical and present-day academic literature places the Nazi Party on the far-right of the traditional left-right spectrum, which in turn is the most common short-form classification used in political science. The Nazis themselves attacked both left-wing and traditional right-wing politicians and movements in Germany as being traitors to Germany. While the Nazi regime's economic policies are very different from those of present-day right-wing parties that adhere to classical liberal or neoliberal positions (which advocate, e.g., a highly deregulated, privatized economic environment), Nazi economic policy was typical of the early to mid-twentieth century far-right, and indeed most political currents of the time, in that it embraced interventionist economics. The Nazi Party absorbed the far-right reactionary monarchist and nationalist German National People's Party into its membership in 1933. The Nazi Party also held good relations with openly right-wing political movements in Europe, such as the Spanish Confederation of the Autonomous Right, whose leader Gil-Robles was a guest at the 1933 Nazi Party Nuremberg rally and sought to model his movement upon the Nazi Party. 2. But the word "socialist" is right in their name!
Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the Holy Roman Empire (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). Historically, several right-wing figures used the term "socialism" to mean something very different from what would be understood by traditional left-wing socialism, referring simply to the broader concept of collectivism and anti-individualism. The prominent French reactionary monarchist Charles Maurras famously said "a socialism liberated from the democratic and cosmopolitan element fits nationalism well as a well-made glove fits a beautiful hand". Maurras's views influenced fascism. Oswald Spengler's ideal of "Prussian Socialism" directly influenced Nazism, and Spengler promoted it as a member of the far-right Conservative Revolutionary movement. The usage of the word "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism", which refers to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production. In the case of the Nazi party, the phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength. This article sums it up well. 3. Were the Nazis actually a capitalist movement?
The answer depends on the context and definition of capitalism. Ideologically, Hitler in private was just as opposed to the ethos of capitalism as he was in public as a politician; he regarded the capitalist ethos as being self-centred individualism that was incompatible with nationalism. Furthermore, in both public and private Hitler regarded capitalism as being created by the Jews for their own interests. The Nazis in public and in private held contempt for bourgeois culture in liberal capitalist societies - as they associated such bourgeois culture with a cosmopolitan, liberal, and decadent lifestyle that was incompatible with the Nazis' ideal of a nationalist martial ethic of disciplined soldiers who were collectively committed to the Fatherland above any individual interest. So, ideologically, Nazism held strong antipathy to capitalism. However, at the same time, Hitler and the Nazis endorsed private property and private enterprise and did not challenge the market economy, which was important to their accrual of power because it avoided antagonizing industrialists and aristocrats. The Nazis themselves claimed that "true socialism" did not involve the Marxian opposition to private property. But if capitalism is defined in a minimum way as involving the support of the existence of private property, private enterprise, and a market economy, then from that minimum definition, the Nazis could be considered as endorsing a capitalist economy. 4. The proper English name for the Nazi Party is the National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). "Nazi" is an abbreviated term, so why does the article not use the proper name?
Because English Wikipedia uses the common name for things, and the common name for the NSDAP in English is the "Nazi Party". 5. I made an offhand comment about it and somebody just came along and deleted it! What should I do?
Nothing. See this discussion where the community came to a consensus that we have entertained the numerous questions and claims about the Nazis being left-wing enough, and that continued engagement with people pushing this line of reasoning is not helpful to the article. 6. That doesn't seem very fair. Don't Wikipedia policies require editors to assume good faith? What if somebody posts that position here with a really good argument?
7. But what if I find a large number of very reliable sources all claiming that Nazism is left-wing?
Then you will be more than welcome to show them to us, so that we can see that they are very reliable and that they assert that Nazism is a left-wing ideology. If they are, then we will change the article. |
 | Nazism is a far-right ideology. The consensus of political scientists, historians, and other reliable sources is that Nazism is a far-right ideology and not a left-wing or far-left one. This has been discussed numerous times. Please see this FAQ and read the talk page archives.Please do not request that "far-right" be changed to "left-wing" or "far-left"; your request will be denied, and you may be blocked from editing if you persist in doing so. |
| "Nazi Party" is the English-language common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party. Per our policy, WP:COMMONNAME, English Wikipedia uses the common name in English for the titles of our articles, and in most references to that subject. Thus "Nazi Party" and "Nazism" are the names of our articles on those subjects, and in most instances the National Socialist German Workers Party is referred to as the Nazi Party, but occasionally, to avoid repetition, by the full English-language name, or by its German acronym, NSDAP.Please do not request that the name of the party be changed; such requests are routinely turned down. |
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National Socialism from the Far-Right?
[edit]Placement on Political Spectrum: Beyond Left-Right
The left-right political spectrum, derived from the seating arrangements during the French Revolution where radicals favoring equality and reform sat on the left and monarchists upholding hierarchy and tradition on the right, proves inadequate for classifying Nazism without qualification. Mainstream historical scholarship places Nazism on the far right due to its ultranationalism, racial hierarchy, and opposition to egalitarian internationalism. Yet this overlooks syncretic elements that defy binary categorization. For example, the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) incorporated anticapitalist rhetoric in its 1920 25-point program, advocating land reform, nationalization of trusts, and communalization of department stores. These appealed to the working class despite rejecting Marxist class struggle. Economist Friedrich Hayek argued in 1944 that Nazism shared "socialist roots," viewing the conflict between fascists and socialists as a dispute over methods rather than ends, with both favoring centralized planning over markets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drout 0 (talk • contribs)
- You will need to provide specific references to establish mainstream acceptance of this argument. Talkpages aren't for a for personal opinions. And read the FAQ first: it's already on your talkpage from last year. Acroterion (talk) 21:59, 23 September 2026 (UTC)
- hayek never said that made them left-wing. In his view, everyone was a socialist except for him. TFD (talk) 22:10, 23 September 2026 (UTC)
Long article
[edit]This article needs some splitting. I need help here as some other splitting procedure I was involved in failed for inadequate reliable sources. SH360! (Must edit! Must chat!) 02:54, 7 October 2026 (UTC)
Edit request 25 October 2026
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{Nazism from right wing to left wing}}):
- 'Why it should be changed' this is becuase I find it crass and rude and also a very massive bit of dissinformation as the nazi party was a socialist party and that political idea was a notable and a provable left wing political machine so I find the fact it is call far right is dispicable and very much a reason for why this world is falling apart because people find it okay to lie and slander about history and that should be rectified. socialism is the standard left-wing ideology this is from your own page on this matter so if this change is refused it will only show how wrong this world has gone:
- References supporting the possible change ( socialism is the standard left-wing ideology this is from your own page on this matter):
~2026-57032-20 (talk) 21:58, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
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Not done: See the big red box at the top of this page — Czello (music) 22:01, 25 October 2026 (UTC)- And see the FAQ at the top of this page: "socialist" in this case has little to do with what they actually were. Naming is not destiny. Acroterion (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
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