Talk:Moksha

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'Extinguished' vs. 'extinction'

I was under the impression Nirvana means 'to be extinguished' and not 'extinction' Msfirexx (talk) 08:43, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Disputed definition

This content has been added and reverted, discussing the definition of moksha: "Moksha is the oneness with supreme power and ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti (nature and matter)."

This is a talk page section used to discuss the distinction. Augmented Seventh (talk) 19:18, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

Moksha is the ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti

it is knowledge i gained from books

Moksha is the ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti (nature and matter)

I want to add this in main wikipedia page Don t remove it please I m begging to you ~2026-55295-24 (talk) 19:31, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

Prakrity is already mentioned; "oneness" is mot exactly correct; Advaita Vedanta, does not speak about 'oneness with', but identity. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:37, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

sir you 're knowledge than me

I just want to prakriti part

Please allow me to do me that I will not add oneness

I learned this from various books ~2026-55295-24 (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

sir please allow me to add that sir please I m begging before you please sir .

Sir rather than removing whole you can correct it is any mistake is there

Sir please ~2026-55295-24 (talk) 20:03, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

Greetings,

I think the problem you're running into is adding the definition without an attribution to notable scholars. In a well-cited, watched and visited page such as this, adding well-meaning claims, however fact-based, will likely be challenged if unsourced.

Hope that helps, Augmented Seventh (talk) 19:39, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

please i want to add this

I learned this from various books sir

Please Sir I m begging you i will not disturb wikipedia again after adding this ~2026-55295-24 (talk) 19:49, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

As a first step, we must have sources for the content. None have been identified that I see. --Hipal (talk) 21:36, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

please sir I want to add that ~2026-55295-24 (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I see multiple accounts involved with the same or similar content. I've gone ahead and reverted the lede to 10:17, 26 March 2026. That seems to be the beginning of the edit-warring on this and related content. I didn't look further to see if there are other problems in the lede that need cleanup. --Hipal (talk) 23:09, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I have requested page-protection. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:01, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

Clean-up

I took a look at the body; it could use some clean-up. Part of it was added by a blocked account, other parts by a suspiciously similar account. The "Synonyms"-section is exemplary; a lot of emphasis on non-self versus ultimate self. And "Interpretations in relation to Dharma" is almost incomprehensible. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:01, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

I think if incomprehensible, a cleanup template would help to improve it and keeping the content. Asteramellus (talk) 22:54, 21 October 2026 (UTC)

Joshua - I has a quick look at the changes - and agree that some cleanup was needed in sections you highlighted, but not clear why some of the source content citing Ingalls, Potter, and other scholars was removed - some of it seems relevant (may be in a bit clearer form) to the article - e.g. relationship between dharma and moksha, moksha within the four purusarthas etc. Since you have already given thought on these sections for removal, it would be helpful to discuss your thoughts.

Also for some of the changes in lead, wanted to see your thoughts on those. Asteramellus (talk) 00:07, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Moksha is the ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti

in Indian philosophy Moksha is the ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti (nature and matter) and Maya (illusion)

Prakriti binds soul to material world

while maya creates ignorance makes us to believe worldly things are permanent

Through spirtual knowledge and practice (dhyana) and detachment

One overcome ignorance and attachment

Thus moksha is the ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti and Maya leading to the realization of true spiritual self or infinite consciousness (purusha or brahman)

This is explained in bhagvad gita , Upanishads, Yoga sutras and Samkhya karika .

Hikopeto (talk) 08:26, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

Read WP:RS. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:06, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

Sir it is the foundational concept about the moksha

There is already that moksha is liberation from kleshas (impurities), ignorance, earthly desires and samsara

So adding ultimate spiritual liberatian from prakriti with it look like Total summary of moksha

So it will be good

it was mentioned in philosophical texts and supported by already existing citations

Please allow me to do this

I will never disrupt wikipedia again after adding this important point

Please 🥺 Hikopeto (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

Sources? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 21:14, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

moksha as ultimate spiritual liberation from prakriti (nature and matter)is mentioned in allmost all Indian philosophy

In samkhya philosophy it is absolute liberation and separation of pure consciousness (purusa)

From prakriti (nature and matter)

In Yoga philosophy focus on stilling activity of prakriti,and stillness, allowing purusa (pure liberated consciousness ) to rest purely its own essence untouched by material modifications of prakriti

Advaita Vedanta teaches prakriti and material nature is realm of maya (illusion) that should be transcended to realize pure infinite conditioned consciousness )/ultimate impersonal reality (Para brahman)

Visisitadvaita and dvaita Vedanta traditions

Which are theistic mainly teaches that moksha means soul leaves material world of prakriti (nature and matter)

to reside eternally with supreme God in a spiritual realm

In shaivaite philosophy prakriti is considered

as the bondage (pasha ) and lower tattva

Moksha in shaivaism is dissolution of

This bondage

siddha tradition of South India also teaches about transcendental state of liberation from prakriti

in vaishnava tradition moksha is transcendence and ultimate spirtual liberation from three material qualities (gunas)

of prakriti (nature and matter)

To enter in vaikunta (vaikunta prapti)

For engaging in eternal loving service

of lord Vishnu in vaikunta

jainism also teaches moksha as complete shedding of matter

The soul rids itself

entirely of karma which is viewed physical material particles (pudgala/prakriti)

And soul then ascend to the siddhasila

(abode of liberated beings ) In the apex of universe untouchable by the matter and nature

While Buddhism replace prakriti with concept of conditioned reality (Sankhata dhatu/dhamma)

Liberation (Nirvana) is the total cessation of activities in material conditioned realm

So it is allmost taught in all mainstream Indian philosophies as ultimate spirtual liberation from prakriti (nature and matter)

Or material world Hikopeto (talk) 01:33, 24 October 2026 (UTC)

WP:RS? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:38, 24 October 2026 (UTC)

It is also supported by already existing citations no need to add New citations Hikopeto (talk) 06:06, 24 October 2026 (UTC)

Which citations? Be specific. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:38, 24 October 2026 (UTC)

classical hindu thought an introduction by sharma Aravind published by Oxford University press in 2000 and

Oxford encyclopedia of world religions Hikopeto (talk) 20:39, 24 October 2026 (UTC)

Pagenumbers and quotes? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:38, 25 October 2026 (UTC)

• Sharma p.113: "The form of moksha may be a matter of difference of opinion but all are agreed on its effect: the cessation of rebirths, of samsara".

Sharma p118: "In Sankhya and Yoga 'the self or spirit is left alone to enjoy it's kaivalya or '(aloofness) from prakriti (matter)". Nothing about the other traditions.
Actually, I think you've got a point ("Samkhya is not one of the systems of Indian philosophy. Samkhya is the philosophy of India!" Gopinath Kaviraj, quoted by Larson (2014) p.xi), but you'll have to have a source which explicitly says so, attribute it ("according to"), and the still ask yourself if it's WP:DUE for the [[WP:LEAD]. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:02, 25 October 2026 (UTC)

in all schools of indian philosophy is similar goal of spiritual liberation is liberation from realm of material natural world and samsara

Prakriti is the cause of Samsara in

Classical Indian philosophical traditions Hikopeto (talk) 11:38, 25 October 2026 (UTC)