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Latest comment: 14 days ago by Kisseran in topic GA review

Wang

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Wang??? was born in 1959? Victuallers (talk) 10:51, 4 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

@Victuallers: It's Ma, of course. Thanks for pointing out the glaring error that both Colipon and I missed. -Zanhe (talk) 18:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

GA review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Ma Xingrui/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: The Account 2 (talk · contribs) 19:17, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Kisseran (talk · contribs) 14:39, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply


Taking this. Review to follow. Kisseran (talk) 14:39, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
    Earwig turns up nothing suspect.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Images are all clearly freely licensed.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Spot check

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This table lists 7 random passages from throughout the article (15.6% of 45 total passages). These passages contain 7 inline citations (14.3% of 49 in the article). Reference numbers refer to this revision. Generated with the Veracity user script.

Reference #LetterSourceArchiveStatusNotes
In September 2007, Ma was promoted to General Manager of CASC.
4achinavitae.comweb.archive.org Nota bene*The month doesn't seem to be mentioned.
Ma's appointment in Shenzhen placed him in his first executive party leadership role. His appointment also elevated the status of the office, given that his predecessor Wang is only an alternate member of the Central Committee, while Ma is a full member.
6china.dwnews.comweb.archive.org ?I don't know if this a reliable source. Did it have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy?
During his tenure as governor, in August 2018, 14 companies from Singapore signed agreements with Guangdong companies to collaborate in research and development, technology, smart cities development, transport and logistics, education, biomedical sciences and professional services.
14channelnewsasia.com checkY"offers opportunities" isn't strictly the same as "signed agreements" but I think this is a reasonable interpretation of the source within context
In January 2022, during the local "Two Sessions" meeting in Xinjiang, Ma called for upholding ethnic unity and guiding "religions to adapt to China’s socialist society".
19scmp.com checkY
In March 2024, Ma stated that sinicization of Islam in Xinjiang is "inevitable."
24reuters.com checkY
In March 2025, Ma held meeting with Thai Deputy Prime Minister Phumtham Wechayachai regarding Thailand's deportation of 40 Uyghurs to China.
30scmp.com checkY
The CCDI report stated that Ma was found to "lost his ideals and beliefs", abandoned "his political conviction", "betrayed the party's principles and original mission" and "seriously violated [the party's] political discipline and rules". Additionally, the CCDI report stated he had "improperly accepting gifts and money, helping relatives purchase houses at discounted prices", engaged in "power-for-sex and money-for-sex transactions" and fostered "rampant corruption across his family". It stated Ma "distorted public power [entrusted to him] into a tool for personal gain, using his position to seek benefits for others in business operations, project contracting and job promotions" and that through his family and associated, Ma was "illegally accepting huge amounts of money and property". The CCDI stated Ma "neglected to supervise and manage the serious violations of [party] discipline and law and suspected crimes committed by his staff" and was "seeking benefits for others in cadre selection and appointment, and improperly arranging jobs for others, personally and through relatives". The CCDI accused Ma of not trustfully reporting his corruption during initial inquiries, stating his behavior continued after the 18th CCP National Congress, and added that Ma's behavior was "extremely serious in nature and [he was] an extremely bad influence".
39cscmp.com checkY

Kisseran (talk) 17:21, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

China.dwnews.com is Duowei News, which seems to be a decent enough source from the time I came across it. Should be reliable for basic facts it is cited for. The Account 2 (talk) 17:48, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
I noticed, yes, but did Duowei News have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy? It's not on WP:RSP, and there's nothing I can see from a cursory search that strongly indicates their reliability. Kisseran (talk) 16:59, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
It seems to be cited by other sources and there's no sign it's involved in misinformation, so I think it's ok. The Account 2 (talk) 17:28, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

Prose comments

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  • Ma is recognized as one of China's top scientists. — this is not strictly mentioned in the body. It should be cited somewhere or omitted as being redundant.
 Done. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • he announced Shenzhen would surrender the Lok Ma Chau Loop to Hong Kong with the intention to develop it with the city — (1) what do you mean by "surrender"? (2) "the city" is ambiguous, do you mean Shenzhen or Hong Kong?
 Done, specified. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • He called on cooperation on a wide range of social and economic policies — with whom?
 Done, specified. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • asked the China Centre for International Economic Exchanges to study the initiative — (1) what initiative? (2) you need to choose a variety of English for the article. The rest of the article seems to be mostly written in American spelling, so I would recommend that, but I'll leave it up to you to decide.
 Done, specified. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • house mainland Chinese authorities — (1) "house" implies that they live there, which seems unlikely here (2) "authorities" is vague and grammatical unidiomatic here, so it would be good to say "law enforcement" or something along those lines, whatever is the case here
 Done, specified. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • During his first tour of Ürümqi, he called on to modernize Xinjiang's supply chains and improve the international business environment — called on whom? 1
 Done, specified. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • According to Ayup, as of November 2024, 240 Uyghurs were sent back to Xinjiang by Ma's administration who sought refuge in Shanghai and Beijing. — this specific sentence doesn't really seem WP:DUE here. If you had more coverage from other sources whatever the position, then it might feel less out of place.
 Done, removed. The Account 2 (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • Additionally, the CCDI report stated he had "improperly accepting gifts and money, helping relatives purchase houses at discounted prices", engaged in "power-for-sex and money-for-sex transactions" and fostered "rampant corruption across his family". It stated Ma "distorted public power [entrusted to him] into a tool for personal gain, using his position to seek benefits for others in business operations, project contracting and job promotions" and that through his family and associated, Ma was "illegally accepting huge amounts of money and property". The CCDI stated Ma "neglected to supervise and manage the serious violations of [party] discipline and law and suspected crimes committed by his staff" and was "seeking benefits for others in cadre selection and appointment, and improperly arranging jobs for others, personally and through relatives" — this feels like slightly gratuitous quotation. I think you could do with a little more paraphrasing and a little less quotation.
 Done; rewrote a bit. The Account 2 (talk) 17:38, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

Kisseran (talk) 16:59, 12 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

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