Talk:MS Normac

Cameron backwards?

"Normac" does NOT spell "Cameron" backwards, and if it did, what significance does that have? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.10.9 (talk) 15:41, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 6 October 2026

MS Normac → NormacNormac – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCSHIPS specifically: an article about a ship not known to have a prefix should use only the ship's name, if that name is unambiguous. Most cites describe without prefixes e.g. Heritage Toronto , Maritime History of the Great Lakes and Owen Sound Sun Times . Emethigg (talk) 23:50, 6 October 2026 (UTC)

Oppose. As far as I can determine, this vessel has always been referred to with some sort of prefix in contemporary directories. Green's Great Lakes Directory has referred to her using both MS and MV in the past. Considering the essentially nonexistent distinction between these definitions, this is hardly surprising. Additionally, prior to her conversion to diesel, the American Bureau of Shipping listed her under the prefix SS in their 1936 Great Lakes Department Hand Book.

Normac has also notably been listed with the MV prefix by a 1991 edition of the Great Lakes Museum's FreshWater journal.

I also searched Newspapers.com for instances of Normac's listing with the MS prefix, and found several instances, stretching multiple decades:

• The Brantford Expositor (1936)
• The Toronto Telegram (1936)
• The Owen Sound Sun Times (1981)
• St. Catharines Standard (1995)
• The Toronto Sun (2008)

Considering the Toronto Heritage source is basically a carbon copy of the MHGL clipping, I have tangible concerns surrounding this RM. Akaza ^[talk] 12:37, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

Oppose per the sources found. Overall, it seems to be a rarity when a ship has no prefix in the steamship age. I did however find Hikawa Maru, Takachiho Maru, and Terukuni Maru (1929) which might be unique to Japan when it comes to ship naming. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:50, 8 October 2026 (UTC)