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Latest comment: 6 months ago by Marquardtika in topic Removal of well-sourced content

Proposed content additions and sourcing

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I recently made several edits to expand sourcing and clarify timelines in the article. I understand there may be concerns about neutrality and structure.

The additions are based on publicly available campaign finance filings and reporting from reliable sources. My goal is to ensure that the article reflects verifiable information in a clear and properly sourced way.

If any specific language needs adjustment for neutrality or balance, I’m happy to revise. I’m also open to feedback on how best to present the material in line with Wikipedia guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TruthIsCurious (talk • contribs) 17:52, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for starting a discussion. I undid a large series of edits you did. This was what the page looked like prior to me undoing the edits. You moved the "Political positions" section to the top of the page and nested "Early life and education", "Early career", and "Personal life" under "U.S. Senate (2025-present)". Your edit also broke the formatting in the "Committee assignments" section. There were some tone issue as well, such as "Additional reporting has described Husted as having connections to broader controversies involving charter schools and energy policy in Ohio." This is vague and does not come across as neutral. What reporting? What connections? There is odd content such as "Reporting in 2026 noted that Husted had received campaign contributions from individuals associated with a company that later paid $88 million to settle Medicaid fraud allegations. The report did not allege that Husted was involved in the misconduct." Well if he's not involved, why are we including it? The "House Bill 6-related testimony and reporting" is way too detailed and seems to be at pains to tie Husted to a scandal. We have "Husted has not been accused of wrongdoing in connection with the case." So why are we giving so much ink to the case? It's WP:COATRACK. Marquardtika (talk) 19:44, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I restored well-sourced material that was removed without explanation. Content supported by reliable, independent secondary sources should not be deleted without discussion.
Your version reads as promo, and I removed that language. Wikipedia is not a promotional tool and content needs to reflect a neutral, encyclopedic tone per WP:NPOV and WP:NOTPROMOTION.
Removing sourced material while emphasizing favorable or narrative-driven content creates undue weight issues (WP:UNDUE), which I corrected by restoring balanced, sourced coverage.
If there are specific issues with any restored content, identify them so they can be addressed directly. TruthIsCurious (talk) 21:49, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Removal of well-sourced content

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The recent removal of multiple well-sourced sections appears to be disruptive and may constitute vandalism or non-constructive editing.

Content that was supported by reliable, independent secondary sources was removed without explanation or accompanying discussion on this talk page, which is inconsistent with standard editing practice. In addition, several sections have been rewritten in a manner that reads more like promotional or campaign-style language rather than a neutral, encyclopedic summary supported by attributed sources.

Wikipedia content should reflect a neutral point of view (WP:NPOV) and be based on verifiable, reliable sources (WP:V, WP:RS). The prior versions of these sections adhered more closely to those standards, including proper attribution and avoidance of editorial tone.

I have begun restoring sourced content and aligning the page with neutrality and sourcing guidelines. If there are specific concerns with any material, please raise them here so they can be addressed collaboratively rather than through unexplained removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TruthIsCurious (talk • contribs) 21:42, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

I explained my edits in the section above. AlsoWukai (talk · contribs) has since made a lot of improvements to the article. But the sections titled "Campaign contributions" and "House Bill 6 related testimony and reporting" have major WP:COATRACK and WP:UNDUE issues. Also, "Committee assignments" is nested under "Campaign contributions" for some reason. Marquardtika (talk) 13:35, 15 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Agree with Marquardtika's assessment. I have removed the "Campaign contributions" section and its nested "House Bill 6-related testimony and reporting" subsection per WP:COATRACK, WP:UNDUE, and WP:BLP, and moved Committee assignments to its correct location under U.S. Senate.
The Campaign contributions section consisted of a single paragraph noting Husted received donations from people associated with a company that paid $88 million to settle Medicaid fraud allegations, while the section itself acknowledged no wrongdoing was alleged. A two-degree association with no allegation, no charge, and no demonstrated consequence fails WP:COATRACK and does not meet the notability threshold for inclusion in a BLP under WP:BLPCRIME.
The HB6 subsection ran five paragraphs covering calendar entries, call logs, text messages, a $1 million dark money payment, and FirstEnergy internal communications. The subject's documented role is that he attended a dinner, did not recall specific details, testified as a defense witness, denied involvement, and has not been accused of wrongdoing. Giving five paragraphs of dedicated coverage to peripheral involvement in a scandal centered on other actors fails WP:UNDUE. The existence of reliable sourcing does not override proportionality requirements, particularly under WP:BLPBALANCE. Per WP:BURDEN, the obligation to demonstrate that contested material in a BLP meets policy rests with the editor seeking inclusion, not with those seeking removal. ~~~~ GrammarGuardian2021 (talk) 03:05, 16 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I hear the concerns about undue weight, coatrack issues, and BLP standards.
The goal was to include sourced, verifiable information, not to suggest wrongdoing where none has been alleged. Looking at it again, some of the added sections may have gave too much space.
I’ll go back and revise with that in mind. Plan is to keep material directly about him and clearly sourced, remove anything that relies on indirect associations, and shorten the HB6 section so it reflects his documented role without going into unnecessary detail.
I’ll put up a revised version shortly. TruthIsCurious (talk) 14:43, 17 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
TruthIsCurious, it looks to me like you put up a version that is extremely similar to the original version that was objected to. It looks to have all of the same issues of WP:COATRACK and WP:UNDUE. What have you changed or eliminated to address these concerns? Marquardtika (talk) 18:59, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I revised both the Campaign contributions and HB6 sections to address the concerns around UNDUE, COATRACK, and BLP.
This version is shorter, removes repetition, and sticks to directly sourced statements about Husted. Each item is separated out (testimony, calendar entry, reported texts, campaign support) instead of being grouped together.
If there are still issues, point to the specific sentences so I can address them specifically. TruthIsCurious (talk) 20:21, 20 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I made updates to the sections to address all concerns. The current version is not under contention.
That revision addressed the concerns raised (UNDUE, COATRACK, BLP) by reducing scope, removing repetition, separating distinct facts, and tying each statement to specific inline sources.
If there are still issues, identify the specific sentences in that version that do not meet policy so they can be addressed directly. TruthIsCurious (talk) 03:56, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
The content I removed here is still WP:UNDUE and WP:COATRACK. It implies that he received a dark money payment in order to push a bill through that resulted in a political bribery scandal. Yet he is an extremely peripheral character in the Ohio FirstEnergy bribery scandal who has at no time been accused of wrongdoing. That he received a donation in 2017 from the state's largest utility company is not inherently noteworthy; utility companies typically are the largest donors to statewide executive races. Marquardtika (talk) 14:20, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply