Talk:Johnny Weissmuller
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Latest comment: 2 months ago by OrionNimrod in topic Ethnicity, place of birth and peacocking in lead
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Florida Wonderland
[edit]He would sign autographs at Florida Wonderland 75.88.203.231 (talk) 02:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Glorifying the American Girl “Adonis scene.”
[edit]He did not “hoist Mary Eaton on his shoulder” in that film. He “knelt” with that woman! 142.161.231.202 (talk) 00:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Ethnicity, place of birth and peacocking in lead
[edit]I've removed references to both of these in the lead sentence, in line with MOS:CONTEXTBIO and MOS:ETHNICITY. Where he was born, and what his ethnic background was, do not play any part in what he is notable for. The following sentence was also empty peacocking that told the reader nothing factual and only talks up the subject. Escape Orbit (Talk) 18:35, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Escape Orbit, I see you think this is not relevant in lead. Ok, I did not restore it that part.
- But why do you remove sourced content in the early life section which is there for 10+ years? Just because an IP vanadlized now and invented Austrian Empire in 1904? He born in Kingdom of Hungary and not Austrian Empire as you claim, please check the map! -> Freidorf is not Austria
- Also it was no Austrian Empire in 1904 but Austria-Hungary, union of 2 sovereign states with a single monarch. OrionNimrod (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
- I didn't remove anything regarding that. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 08:28, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- Escape Orbit Then probably it was a mistake, IP confused the things, I talk about the "early life" section https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Weissmuller&diff=prev&oldid=1363358669 + Szabadfalva (Freidorf) is not in Siebenbürgen (Transylvania) at all OrionNimrod (talk) 10:06, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- I beg your pardon, but I assume we are all educated people here?
- Austria prior to 1914 included all of what is currently Austria, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, and all the the Balkans. Hungary was not a separate nation but a constituent part (with varying borders) of the Habsburg empire and the sovereign nation of Austria-Hungary.
- Please do not refer to what was then Austria and is today Romania as being Hungary, as that is simply historically incorrect.
- On top of this, for those interested in truth and historical facts, within present-day Romania there was for 600 years a separate province where everyone spoke German. Siebenburgen means "the 7 cities", and included Freidorf as well Kronstadt, Hermannstadt, Klausenburg, Bistritz, Schäßburg, and Mühlbach. Still today, there are large ethnic groups there who are raised speaking Austrian German.
- Whether this is relevant here can of course be debated, but if Johnny were alive and asked on the subject, he would call himself a proud American with Austrian roots; certainly NOT Hungarian.
- Thank you for putting truth ahead of misplaced editorial pride. ~2026-39088-88 (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- Dear IP, please contact with contemporary map creators and just tell them you are obviously better informed :)
- Austria-Hungary
- https://www.mapsandantiqueprints.com/cdn/shop/products/Austro-Hungarian-Empire-antique-map_1800x1800.jpg?v=1654519576
- map from 1880
- https://trowbridgegallery.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/aus-hungary-copy.jpg
- map from 1891
- https://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/austriahungary-randmcnally-1895
- map from 1909
- https://www.antiquemapsandprints.com/products/austria-hungary-bosnia-dalmatia-bohemia-galicia-tyrol-moravia-styria-1909-map-p-6-041557
- Transylvanian Saxons#Fortification of the towns the 7 Saxon cities in Transylvania, clearly not the Banat!
- Szabadfalva/Freidorf is part of Temesvár, which is the Banat (Banat Swabian dialect) and not Transylvania, just scrool in the map then you will see it is part of Kingdom of Hungary, I cannot do anything if you dont like what was in the past.
- Good luck for time travel to talk with Johnny! OrionNimrod (talk) 19:32, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- I didn't remove anything regarding that. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 08:28, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
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