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all 39.35.178.228 (talk) 15:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Removals of sourced content

Hi @Edinom, could you explain the removals you've recently made to the article? I took a look through all the content you removed and it was all supported by the references. Cheers, 9yz (talk) 22:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

the reference is fake amd this article shows the hate toward ethnic groups of Uzbek and Afghan as it seems the writer is from India. The reason is the article completely shows hate and is avenged from Mughal and Durrani ethnic group. Edinom (talk) 22:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

You'll have to expand on that a bit. Could you explain:

• Which references are fake or unreliable
• Which portions of the article show hate towards ethnic groups?

9yz (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

How can you point Afghan and Uzbek ethnic group. All of the sources are wrong. There was no Afghanistan and Uzbekistan on map at the time of Mughal emperor Akba. This article is published on the avenge and hate toward The Muslim Empror Akbar and Afghan emperor Ahmad Shah Abdali. Ahmad shah abdali didn't rule on lahore yet he captured. He ruled on Multan side area.

The article is totally incorrect and fake. I demand to remove that part where it is mentioned that Afghan and mughal empror used to do prostitution and made it legal. Edinom (talk) 22:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines violation and fake claim not supported by historical record

The article contains several false and defamatory claims that violate Wikipedia’s core policies:

1. False claim about Ahmad Shah Abdali – Alleging his involvement in prostitution in Heera Mandi is baseless and not supported by any credible historical source.

2. Misrepresentation of history – The implication that the Mughals institutionalized prostitution is completely unsupported and misleading.

These claims promote false narratives and violate principles of verifiability, neutrality, and no original research.

Requested Action: Immediate removal of the unsupported content and a full review of the article’s sources for accuracy and integrity 103.125.177.62 (talk) 06:00, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

The text in question seems to be supported by multiple sources.--John B123 (talk) 20:10, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Best as I can tell, the content in the article is properly sourced. Because you are challenging it, you must:

• Show that the existing text does not meet the Verifiability standards and that the citations for it do not meet the Reliable sources guidelines.
• Provide reliable sources that prove what you are claiming.

Until you do this, these changes cannot be made to the article. 9yz (talk) 22:38, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

.@John B123@9yz@

In the section on the Durrani empire, link 5, 6 are cited as reference for the claim that Heeramandi was established as a hub for prostitutions under Ahmad Shah durrani. However after carefully reviewing both sources, I didn't find any content directly attributing this to Ahmad Shah durrani. Also non of the cited reference clearly mentioned that Akbar brought Afghanistan and Uzbekistan women's in heeramandi. In fact, link 5 mentions that maharaja Ranjeet Singh himself took part in mujras and dances, which adds valuable cultural and historical content to that era. Similarly in the Mughal empire section, which in your article mentioned that women were brought from Afghanistan and Uzbekistan, link 8 and 10 are used to support the claim by you. I found again the mention of maharaja Ranjeet Singh in the amusement of mujras and dances for significant time. But that is also not added and mentioned by you in the article. But it is oppositely mentioned by your article that maharaja Ranjeet Singh shut down this mujras and prostitutions hub. Which again make you article contradictory and only biased to maharaja Ranjeet Singh and severe against to Mughal and Afghans. Look like it shows your personal hate and that's why you avoided the facts and made article only ethnic hate.

Now in the link no 8 shows that women were brought by Mughals from Uzbekistan and Afghanistan. By visited the referenced site, I found non trusty Indian websites, which claimed that Afghan and Uzbek women were brought but it also didn't added any historical book to support the claimed which means the article is not to be trusted. That website article also looks showing ethnic hate for Afghanistan and Uzbekistan by indians. As we know tha, creating a fake website in the IT era is not challenging and difficult.

Suggestion by me to avoid policies and guidelines:

1. Remove the claim from your Wikipedia article, that Ahmad Shah abdali was involved in promotion of prostitutions in heeramandi. If you can't provide any historical book as reference. Don't add those references Which is the recent documentary of heeramandi, which are not acceptable. Only add historical references. Not the fake article form any website.

2. Add maharaja Ranjeet Singh role as described in the link that he was also involved in getting amusement from mujras. 5,6,8,10. To show unbiased article. So that we can think that article is not made by Indian who are very profrssional in making the history contradictory.

Thanks. Malinkene (talk) 16:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Request for page protection

I request protection of this article. It has repeatedly been used to insert disputed and poorly sourced claims targeting particular ethnic groups. The page covers a sensitive historical topic and has been subject to recurring POV-driven edits. Protection would help ensure that controversial changes are discussed and supported by reliable sources before being added. G000p10 (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2026 (UTC)