Talk:Gavrilo Princip

Tuberculosis

Gavrilo Princip did not contract tuberculosis in prison, he had it since his childhood. Most of his brothers and sisters died in their infancy and since tuberculosis was essentially a death sentence during his time, it is believed that this condition did play a significant role in his decision to assassinate Prince Ferdinand. Mmom (talk) 23:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Broad generalisation about independence sentiment

“Bosnia, like the other southern Slavic states under imperial rule, yearned for independence.”

This wording generalises political sentiment across a substantial portion of Austro-Hungarian population following the 1908 annexation, erasing significant variations between classes and constituent Crown lands, e.g. a Serb-identifying Bosnian peasant, a Croatian count and a Slovene factory owner are unlikely to share an opinion on the Empire. A more precise phrasing (e.g., “Yugoslav nationalist groups” or “Yugoslav-oriented / Serbia-oriented youth and intellectual circles”) or a citation supporting the generalisation would improve neutrality.

~2025-42723-52 (talk) 00:27, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Relevance of "See also" entries

@Bis-Serjetà?, @Shadow4ya, @Sadko, I’m not aware of reliable sources that link Princip to Miloš Obilić or Blagoje Jovović in a biographical context. Without RS this addition look like editorial WP:SYNTH. I recommend removal unless sources are provided that explicitly establish this connection. Aeengath (talk) 16:53, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Maybe you have a point. Let’s see what fellow editor Bis-Serjata? has to say. — Sadko (words are wind) 17:29, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm mildly confused how links in a "See also" section could fall under WP:SYNTH, I thought they applied only to main article content? Feel free to correct me if I am (and I am probably) wrong.

Anyway, I added these wikilinks (and by extension, the entire section itself) based on what I read on MOS:SEEALSO a while back, which states:

One purpose of "See also" links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics; however, articles linked should be related to the topic of the article or be in the same defining category.

Since Obilić, Princip, and Jovović are all assassins (1 or 2 of them may not have really been, but that's besides the point) of Serbian origin, who each killed a leader or royal figure of an enemy state of Serbia and/or Serbs (Murad, Ferdinand, Pavelić, respectively) at some point in time, they all fall under the "same defining category" in my opinion, so I added their respective wikilinks to each other's "See also" sections where applicable, to organize internal links to related or comparable articles and "build the web" as MOS:SEEALSO says. Since neither Obilić nor Jovović are mentioned nor wikilinked in Princip's article, MOS:NOTSEEALSO also allows them to be added in a "See also" section.

Also, on Miloš Obilić's article, it mentions that "Njegoš's tales, including [that of] Miloš, inspired later generations of Serbs – notably Gavrilo Princip, the assassin of Archduke Franz Ferdinand." I'm not sure why this isn't also mentioned on Princip's article but it's beyond me. Cheers. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 20:19, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation @Bis-Serjetà?. I think the issue is how the "defining category" is being applied here. As you said, this grouping is based on your opinion but Wikipedia generally avoids editor defined categories unless they’re supported by reliable sources. "Assassins of Serbian origin who killed leaders" isn’t a category used in Princip’s biography and I’m not aware of RS that group these figures together in that way. Aeengath (talk) 20:35, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply — perhaps I may have over-specified the defining category; if I simplify assassins [...] of Serbian origin, who each killed a leader or royal figure of an enemy state of Serbia and/or Serbs to simply assassins of Serbian origin, then maybe the category would be less of my opinion/judgment and more of reliable sources, as 2/3 of the aforesaid people (Princip, Jovović) are in Category:Serb nationalist assassins and all 3/3 people are in Category:Serbian assassins, which would provide a legitimate categorical purpose for them each being mentioned in their respective articles' "See also" sections.

See what MOS:SEEALSO also says:

The article on Tacos might include the "See also" link Fajita as another example of Mexican cuisine.

Replace "tacos" and "fajita" with any two of the assassins' names and "Mexican cuisine" with "a Serbian assassin" and I think you'll see my point. No RS comparing the three together are necessarily required (at least I think that can be concluded from what the MoS states above; i.e. what other examples are given in "See also" are left to editorial judgment and common sense, not WP:RS.) After all, when was the last time you saw a citation given in the "See also" section?

... but out of an abundance of caution, I tried to find some RS comparing these 3 figures from a lazy Google search. At least for Princip and Obilić, besides the singular source given on Obilić's article about Princip taking inspiration from him, there's also this which directly states, "[Princip] was compared to Milos Obilic who had killed Murad in 1389 during the Battle of Kosovo." There's also this source which describes the "sacrifice of Milosh Obilich, [...] sacrifice of Gavrilo Princip" in the same breath.

For Princip and Jovović, I haven't found any sources online besides this one, from a Serbian fashion brand named after Princip which hails Jovović as another "[Serbian] hero" in the same vain as Princip. On the same website, there's a rather funny looking hoodie-and-mask combo bearing Princip's name and Jovović's face and likeness. Is this Serbonationlist clothing shop a reliable source? Maybe not. Is it worth mentioning? I think so. In all seriousness though, defer to my paragraph above about no RS being needed as my justification for also including Jovović on Princip's article and vice-versa. Cheers. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 21:32, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

I don’t have anything further to add on this, I’ll step back here and leave it to others if they want to continue. Aeengath (talk) 08:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)