Talk:Flag of Ivory Coast

GA review

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Nominator: Yue (talk · contribs) 05:22, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Grnrchst (talk · contribs) 12:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm happy to take this on for review, as I don't think I've reviewed any flag articles before. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

• This review is part of my pledge for the review at Talk:Regional Workers' Center of Paraguay/GA1. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

Comments

• It'd be nice to have a photograph of the flag in use. This photograph of the flag flying in San-Pédro is a possible option.
  •  Done. Yue🌙
• I've noticed a few more sources in Google Scholar at "Ivorian flag", "Flag of Ivory Coast", "Flag of Côte d'Ivoire", "Côte d'Ivoire flag" and "Ivory Coast flag". Worth taking a look through these to see if they have any additional information that would be worth including in this article.
  • I took a look and I don't think there's anything to add. Most are the author's anecdotes or repetitions of symbolism. Yue🌙

Adoption

• "including Ivory Coast" Link to History of Ivory Coast#French colonial era.
  •  Done. Yue🌙
• Spotcheck: [2][3] Verified on the presidency's website, but couldn't find most of this in David 2009.
• Spotcheck: [4] Verified.
• "Head of government Félix Houphouët-Boigny" Was his official title "head of government" or did he not have an official title?
  • Fixed. Yue🌙
• Spotcheck: [5] Verified.
• Spotcheck: [4][6] Verified most information in Abidja.net, verified article 1 in the wikisource text of the constitution. Suggest moving these citations inline with the specific information they're verifying, rather than bundling them together.
  • A consequence of my time in university and also previous reviewers' preferences. To my knowledge this isn't a MOS contradiction / violation. Yue🌙
    • I unbundled them anyways. Yue🌙
• "constitution adopted on 3 December 1960" Wikisource says 3 November 1960.
  • Fixed. Yue🌙
• Spotcheck: [7] Verified.
• Spotcheck: [8][9] Verified.
• Are there any secondary sources that we could be citing about the flag's constitutional status, rather than the constitutions themselves?
  • I added one for the 2016 constitution and there is one for the original 1960 constitution. I do not mind removing the details for the other versions if you prefer because they are relics of the older versions of the article. Yue🌙
• Was there any reason for the article about the flag moving from the first article of the first constitution down to much later in the subsequent ones?
  • None that I can ascertain from secondary sources. Yue🌙

Design

• Spotcheck: "The constitution does not specify the particular shades of the colours," Source doesn't appear to state this explicitly. Are we saying this purely because of an absence of evidence?
• Spotcheck: "government publications use shades matching Pantone codes PMS 151 for orange and PMS 347 for green" I can't find these codes in the cited source; were these codes identified from the colours used in the source?

Yes to both points above, which I know may be borderline WP:OR, but in my opinion unproblematic "OR". Regardless, I cut that section down to just what is explicitly stated, so the new wording is "The design of the flag is defined in Article 48 of the Constitution of Ivory Coast (2016) as a 'tricolour flag of orange, white, and green in vertical bands and of equal dimensions'. The width-to-length ratio of the flag is 2:3. The London Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games (LOCOG) used Pantone codes PMS 151 for orange and PMS 347 for green in their manual for the 2012 Summer Olympics." The table uses Flagcolorcodes.com, which is not an authoritative source, but it uses the same flag as LOCOG's. Yue🌙

• Spotcheck: [11] Verified.
• Spotcheck: [12] Verified.

Symbolism

• Per the Manual of Style on non-English quotations, quotes that are translations should be explicitly marked as such, with the original quote included as appropriate.
  • Fixed, I think. Yue🌙
• Side note: That one of the possible explanations of the orange is that it symbolises blood would be a fascinating potential DYK hook.
  • Thank you, noted. Yue🌙
• "wrote in the Encyclopædia Britannica" Encyclopædia Britannica should be in italics.
  • Fixed. Yue🌙
• Spotcheck: [5] Verified.

Similarity to the flag of Ireland

• Spotcheck: [13][14] The similarity of the two flags doesn't appear to be in either of these sources.
  • I added a new source that verifies that particular detail. Yue🌙
• Link to Joe (website) and Irish Central in the citations.
  •  Done. Yue🌙
• Irish Central citation should have an access date.
  •  Done. Yue🌙
• Spotcheck: [15][16] Verified.
• Spotcheck: [17] Verified.
• Spotcheck: [18] Verified.

Lead and infobox

• At 72 words, the lead section is currently too short. Per the Manual of Style on lead sections, it should be at least 100 words and should provide an accessible overview of the subject. A couple extra sentences would go a long way. In particular, I notice that the flag's symbolism isn't covered here.
  • Expanded. Yue🌙

Checklist

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   All good on the prose front.

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

   Lead could be slightly longer and there may be an issue with translation of non-English quotes.

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   A couple minor details missing from citations for the Ireland flag section.

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   A couple cases where citations are bundled, rather than inline with the information being verified. All sources appear to be reliable.

   C. It contains no original research:

   Seems like there may be some novel interpretation or OR going on in a couple cases.

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

   No cases of copyright violations or plagiarism seen in spotchecks.

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   May be some more information in some of the sources in Google Scholar; worth a check.

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

   Completely focused on the topic, with no deviations.

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

   Completely neutral.

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

   Last reverts took place over a year ago, way before the nomination.

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   Both images are properly licensed.

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

   Both images are relevant and captioned, although they could do with alt text.

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   This article is very well-written and informative, and very close to meeting the GA criteria. The main issues that the article has are minor problems with verifiability, which I think could easily be addressed. Feel free to ping me once these comments are addressed and/or if you have any questions. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

@Grnrchst: Hello again! Thank you for doing this review. I responded to all your points above and made these changes accordingly. Let me know what else you'd like to see and we'll go from there. Yue🌙 19:57, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for seeing to all of these comments. I'm more than happy to pass this now. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by History6042 talk 15:46, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

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Flags of Ireland (left) and Ivory Coast (right)

• ... that Ulster loyalists in Northern Ireland have mistakenly burned the flag of Ivory Coast instead of the flag of Ireland (both pictured)?

• Source: "What have the Ivory Coast ever done to deserve this?". JOE.ie. 12 July 2013. Archived from the original on 9 July 2019. Retrieved 9 July 2019. During the July 12 celebrations in Northern Ireland, bonfires play a huge part. Sometimes these enormous tyre and pallet constructions have a few Irish flags thrown on them before being lit but one Belfast bonfire has made a slight error. The picture, taken by Barry McColgan, shows a few tricolours but they are Orange, White and Green, not Green, White and Orange, meaning that the nation of the Ivory Coast are the ones having their flag go up in flames not Ireland.

• • ALT1: ... that the orange on the flag of Ivory Coast (pictured) represents blood, among other things? Source: "5 Symboles de la République" [5 Symbols of the Republic] (PDF) (in French). Ministry of Public Service (Ivory Coast). 2018. Archived (PDF) from the original on 12 April 2021. Retrieved 5 September 2025. L'Orange rappelant la couleur de notre terre riche et généreuse, c'est le sens de notre lutte, le sang d'un peuple jeune dans sa lutte pour notre émancipation ...
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1988
  • Comment: If ALT1 is chosen, consider displaying File:Flag of Côte d'Ivoire.svg alongside it instead, with the caption "Flag of Ivory Coast".

Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

Yue🌙 20:26, 14 September 2025 (UTC).

• GA, in time (promoted September 13; nominated September 14), long enough, properly cited, image is properly licensed, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. ALT0 is approved, and the more interesting of the two. ALT 1 might also work, but it's less interesting and might need a better source. The article states that "Legislator Augustin Loubao proposed changing the orange band to red, to symbolise Ivorians' willingness to shed their blood to defend the new republic" but that "Other legislators opposed the proposed change, and the existing flag was retained". This suggests that, whatever Delafosse said in the quoted line that supports ALT1, others may have had different interpretations of the orange. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:19, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
  • @Usernameunique: Thanks for doing the review! For ALT1 the connected passage in the Wikipedia article is part of a translated quote: "... orange recalling the colour of our rich and generous land, it is the meaning of our struggle, the blood of a young people in its struggle for our emancipation ..." Yue🌙 21:28, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
    • My pleasure, Yue. I understand that the ALT1 source is part of a translated quotation; my point is that the separate line in the article (regarding Loubao's proposal) makes it unclear if the translated quotation tells the full story of the meaning of the orange. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:37, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
      • @Usernameunique: Make sense; no worries and thanks again! Yue🌙 21:42, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Dimensions compared

The article (no doubt rightly) says that the flags of Ivory Coast and Ireland have different proportions. But in the side-by-side photo of them flying, it appears that those two particular flags have exactly the same proportions and dimensions. I can't be certain, but that's how it looks. TooManyFingers (talk) 17:13, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

Noted. Yue🌙 (talk) 03:41, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Not the same tricolor

The flag of Ireland and the Ivory Coast are different. Wikipedia itself says so. I added "almost", but it was removed. Koubaki (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

@Koubaki: The existing sentence does not state the two flags are the same and also details why they are different, but I can see how the wording could be misinterpreted. I changed the sentence to "It is similar to the flag of Ireland, but with the tricolour reversed and wider proportions." Yue🌙 (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

That's better, but it still doesn't mention that the colors themselves are different. The page of the Irish flag shows different hex codes than the one here. Koubaki (talk) 19:12, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Alternate colour codes

would this article be better if it used the colour values defined in this document rather than the LOCOG ones? ERSthan (talk) 18:25, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@ERSthan: Yes, thanks for finding that. I can change the values in the table later if you or someone else hasn't done it already. Yue🌙 (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@Yue: I've updated them but I'm not entirely sure what the cyan value for orange should be, in the document it's listed as 0,40% (maybe 0.4%)? what do you think? ERSthan (talk) 02:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@ERSthan: Yes, 0,40% is the French notational equivalent of 0.40% in English. However, I just noticed that the darker shade of orange in the document is referring to the flag in the logo of Millennium Challenge Ivory Coast, not necessarily the digital render of the flag, which is also featured in the document with a different shade of orange.

Actually the Ivorian government is pretty inconsistent with the shade of orange specifically. On the presidential website it's hexcode #F67400, in this 2018 government publication it's #EB661B, and in this digital copy of the constitution on the UNESCO website it's #FF6600. I don't think there's a definitive shade, or at least I haven't found consistency yet after doing further checks. Yue🌙 (talk) 04:37, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Yue: that is rather annoying, in that case how should we proceed? assuming there isn't a colour that's used more consistently that the others do we simply pick a single shade to include in this article? If so what shade? Should we instead include multiple tables to cover the multiple definitions for each colour and have renderings of each? Is there even a standard way to lay this information out in a Wikipedia page? ERSthan (talk) 13:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@ERSthan: No standard; probably best to just list the ones that are reliably sourced. Yue🌙 (talk) 18:42, 13 June 2026 (UTC)