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Latest comment: 10 months ago by 209.202.60.98 in topic FALLOUT NEW VEGAS IS NOT A SPIN OF

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Not important, but I did anyway QuantumFoam66 (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

FALLOUT NEW VEGAS IS NOT A SPIN OF

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nv is loved and viewed as a main game not a spin of 47.44.39.122 (talk) 16:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

This has been beaten into the ground. The developers and reliable secondary sources list it as a spin-off. That has nothing to do with it's quality, popularity, or fan love for it. It simply is. -- ferret (talk) 17:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
It is a spin off because it wasn’t developed by Bethesda, Obsidian developed it, Bethesda was simply the publisher and also it takes place in the Mojave desert which is completely different setting than the commonwealth seen in the main games, please change it back to spin off 209.202.60.98 (talk) 23:58, 24 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Re-working the Vaults section of Series overview

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The part of vaults section that talks about the experiments feels too clunky and just seems to run-on. Should it be changed to a table that lists the vault number, location, experiment, and what game it appeared in?
Here is an example:

Experiments of Known Vaults
Vault NumberLocationExperimentSource Media
111Commonwealth of MassachusettsResidents were cryogenically frozenFallout 4(2015)

'Main series' vs 'Spin offs' distinction feels awkward, have changed

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'New Vegas' has dropped in and out of the 'main series' section over time on this page, and I see arguments both ways. However, I'd suggest that the better classification is a 'major releases' category, and a 'spin offs' or 'other' category. Keep in mind that the perceived quality of a game, and its status amongst Fallout fans, should not factor into the classification. What should count is the game's notability as an entry in the series, which I'd argue is some combination of units sold, legacy over time, and perhaps budget/scale of production. With that in mind, I'd argue that the major six Fallout games are 1-4, NV and 76. 5 is probably safe in that category too, despite how little we know about it.

A few more words on my thinking for this classification:

  • Calling 1-4 the 'main series' seems to make sense on the surface, but the games were developed by different studios, play very differently, and for the most part whilst they share a universe, they do not share a continuing story arc.
  • Excluding NV seems to make sense because it doesn't have a number after its title, and was conceived as an expansion or spin-off, but its popularity over time, and continued notability (for example its partial adaptation in the Fallout TV show), makes categorising it as a 'spin off' seem a little awkward.
  • Fallout 76 is a multiplayer game, and initially at least was not popular amongst Fallout fans, however it is inarguably a major Fallout release, and a quick Google suggests it's sold drastically more units than say 1, 2 or NV. So again, categorising it as a 'spin off' seems inaccurate.
  • The remaining games cover different genres, developers and levels of commercial success, however I think it's reasonable to group them under some kind of 'other' heading.
  • There are probably other ways of sorting the games that are more descriptive, but IMO two categories breaks up the article enough without getting bogged down in endless sub-categories.