Talk:FCSB

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 February 2026

Change year of establishment from 1947 to 2017. Change Honours Section. Remove European Cup trophy; European Supercup Trophy; Divizia A/Liga 1 titles from the following years: 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1967–68, 1975–76, 1977–78, 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1994–95, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2000–01, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15; Cupa României trophies from the following years: 1948–49, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1955, 1961–62, 1965–66, 1966–67, 1968–69, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1975–76, 1978–79, 1984–85, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89, 1991–92, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 2010–11, 2014–15; Cupa Ligii Trophies (All); Supercupa României trophies from the following years: 1994, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2006, 2013 ~2026-12055-68 (talk) 09:31, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. {{GearsDatapack|talk|contribs}} 10:27, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

What do you mean? It is pretty clear:

1. Change year of establishment from 1947 to 2017.

Source: https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/fcsb-solicitare-uefa-steaua-palmares-856693.html

Source: https://golazo.ro/uefa-fcsb-steaua-cupa-campionilor-europeni-explicatii-site-153467

2. Remove European Cup trophy from honours.

Source: https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/fcsb-solicitare-uefa-steaua-palmares-856693.html

Source: https://golazo.ro/uefa-fcsb-steaua-cupa-campionilor-europeni-explicatii-site-153467

3. Remove European Supercup trophy from honours section.

Source: https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/fcsb-solicitare-uefa-steaua-palmares-856693.html

Source: https://golazo.ro/uefa-fcsb-steaua-cupa-campionilor-europeni-explicatii-site-153467

4. Delete the following DiviziaA/Liga 1 titles from the honours section: 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1967–68, 1975–76, 1977–78, 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1994–95, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2000–01, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15;

Source: https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/fcsb-solicitare-uefa-steaua-palmares-856693.html

Source: https://golazo.ro/uefa-fcsb-steaua-cupa-campionilor-europeni-explicatii-site-153467

5. Delete the Cupa României trophies from the honours section for the following years: 1948–49, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1955, 1961–62, 1965–66, 1966–67, 1968–69, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1975–76, 1978–79, 1984–85, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89, 1991–92, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 2010–11, 2014–15;

Source: https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/fcsb-solicitare-uefa-steaua-palmares-856693.html

Source: https://golazo.ro/uefa-fcsb-steaua-cupa-campionilor-europeni-explicatii-site-153467

6. Delete Supercupa României trophies from the honours section for these years: 1994, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2006, 2013

Source: https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/fcsb-solicitare-uefa-steaua-palmares-856693.html

Source: https://golazo.ro/uefa-fcsb-steaua-cupa-campionilor-europeni-explicatii-site-153467 CatalinCimpian (talk) 09:44, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

 Not done These changes will be controversial, see for instance the discussion above concerning the year of establishment of the club. Consensus will be needed before these changes can be made. — Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:17, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

May I ask why these changes would be controversial? I am asking this mainly because FCSB is almost a copy of an existing article, this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSA_Steaua_Bucure%C8%99ti_(football)

So I am curios why it would be controversial to change one article but not the other. Because they say almost the same thing. And I do believe there is a wikipedia policy against duplicate content, is ther enot? CatalinCimpian (talk) 12:33, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

There is a contesting in annulment going on. So, even if the trial is "final" on paper, in reality it will remain final if the Constitutional Court rejects FCSB's claim.

There is an absurd mismatch between the juridical reality and the historical reality.

Even if FCSB has been cowered into denying history, Wikipedia will say FCSB has been cowered, but Wikipedia won't change historical facts. tgeorgescu (talk) 14:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 June 2026

Remove all the titles of FCSB before the year 2003.

As per this article, the judicial process has been finalized and the situation of the honours between FCSB and Steaua București has been finally settled as follows:

1. CSA Steaua București will retain all silverware and honours for the period 1947 (year of founding) and 1998.

2. The silverware won in the period 1998-2003 will be attributed to no club, as per the decision of the judges involved.

3. FCSB will retain all titles and honors starting from 2003 onwards. 2003 is the year when George Becali bought the club from the Romanian Ministry of Defense.

Article/source: https://www.digisport.ro/fotbal/liga-1/a-aparut-motivarea-instantei-legata-de-palmaresul-stelei-cu-ce-ramane-fcsb-ul-4055153 BriciMihai (talk) 08:24, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before posting an edit request. Day Creature (talk) 16:26, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Yup, a judge said so. We tell our readers that a judge said so. We don't doctor history because a judge said so. tgeorgescu (talk) 10:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Understood, thank you, both of you! BriciMihai (talk) 16:11, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

A view

Undue in lede. Courts decide legal questions (does a specific claim constitute fraud, as defined in law) not historical questions (is the item genuine). . tgeorgescu (talk) 14:51, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Publish changes”

Edit request: Infobox update for foundation year and honours@ ~2026-59222-38 (talk) 18:57, 7 November 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia recognizes that the verdict exists. Wikipedia does not recognize it as mainstream history. tgeorgescu (talk) 19:13, 7 November 2026 (UTC)

The court ruling should not be treated as the definitive historical account of the club's past, but its legal findings should not be disregarded either. The infobox should reflect the club's current legal identity, including its name and foundation year, while the honours listed should be consistent with the court's ruling.

The distinction between the legal situation and mainstream historical accounts belongs in the History section, where the club's identity and continuity can be discussed in greater detail, with reference to reliable secondary sources.

Leaving the court's findings out of the infobox would risk giving readers a misleading impression of the club's legal identity and officially recognised honours. Florin (talk) 21:29, 7 November 2026 (UTC)

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/clubs/2614166--steaua-bucuresti/

IRL FCSB played those 2001-2017 matches. So, that's Steaua Bucuresti, according to UEFA.

So, yup, UEFA obliged the letter of the verdict, but to a much larger extent than it is convenient for CSA. tgeorgescu (talk) 22:05, 7 November 2026 (UTC)

Against this. We care a lot about what the long history of reliable sources say, and very little about the legal stance of a court. I haven't seen evidence of a significant change since the February 2026. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 22:08, 7 November 2026 (UTC)

It is UEFA's total compliance which makes the verdict look absurd. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:44, 7 November 2026 (UTC)