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Yes, I know Edward I takes one to the article where that nick-name is covered, but I believe for casual readers seeing that he was the sone of Longshanks right away will be of help, especially those that get sparked in an interest of English history after seeing such entertainment as the Gibson film. -HammerFilmFan HammerFilmFan (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2026 (UTC)Reply
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HereUser:Markusdfgdsg added the following sentence to the "Death and aftermath" section: "Without verifying it, Edward III started disseminating the news. Most historians take the view that EdwardII did indeed die at Berkeley on that date, even though there is no more evidence for it than a letter which would later be disputed by the sender Thomas de Berkeley in parliament 1330." The meaning of "dispute" is unclear here; does it mean that Berkeley denied having sent it, or that he disputed its contents? If anyone has immediate access to the source that makes this claim (I wasn't able to see the relevant section in Google Books), please clarify. Best, Revolution Saga (talk) 20:24, 1 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
Both! Sources are the Berkeley Manuscripts, p. 296 and Phillips, Edward II, p. 573. It’s also mentioned in Ian Mortimers and Kathryn Warners books on the subject. Lord Berkely denied having any knowledge of the death: ’…he wishes to acquit himself of the death of the same king, and says that he was never an accomplice, a helper or a procurer in his death, nor did he ever know of his death until this present parliament’. He followed up this statement by claiming that he hadn’t even been at Berkeley castle at the time and so couldn’t have sent the letter. That’s not true, as the Berkeley accounts confirm that he only arrived at Bradley a week later. ~2026-58199-61 (talk) 10:37, 2 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the response! But does the statement "there is no more evidence for it than a letter from Thomas de Berkeley" correspond to the sources? Also, it seems the letter in question has not survived, which I think should be mentioned. If you can edit the relevant sentence for clarity that would be very helpful, as you have a good knowledge of the sources. Best, Revolution Saga (talk) 15:46, 3 November 2026 (UTC)Reply
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