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Latest comment: 6 months ago by IrisChronomia in topic Terrible sources

Terrible sources

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I was scanning over the references section - the article should really be created in zhwiki, where the user there are more familiar with WP:RS of the Chinese language. It doesn't make sense to have a Indian person's BLP have almost its entirety of reference section filled with pieces written in Chinese.

And just to be blunt: if the article were to be created in zhwiki, I'll also be there to start an AfD. There are many reasons for why news coverage of an individual is not the same for Chinese state media versus the same story from e.g., the BBC, especially for the a foreigner's success story in / related to China style of stories - it's part of the state media's toolbox for propaganda. The inclusion criteria for individuals is more about how a subject fits in with the desired narrative, rather than truly notability. 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 12:45, 25 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I'm pondering over the sources written in English and it seems like that the "subject was featured in text book" claim either references CGTN without giving a link or screenshot or whatever or is just an empty claim.
[...] became so famous that his story was made a part of Class 7 English textbook in Xi'an City, as per CGTN. The section on Mr Raturi talks about his inspirational rags-to-riches story. 1.NDTV - no link or image.
[...] has achieved extraordinary success that will be remembered for generations to come, as he gets featured in a school textbook in China. 2.Statesman - ditto, no link / image. 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 13:14, 25 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Here's an even better joke: The China Daily piece doesn't seem to have a corresponding article written in Chinese. See search of the supposed Chinese name on Chinese Daily's archive (all time), (time-limited to the publication month). Using Baidu query "Indian Dev China Daily" doesn't yield a piece, neither. 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 13:30, 25 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
As a side note: China Daily doesn't really exist in China beyond being reading materials for English learners. You don't even see them being sold at newsstands (back when they still exist); it's kind of like the newspapers of CGTN or Russia's RT - they're targeting a foreign audience. A better reference for (national) notability would be People's Daily or Xinhua Dailylit. "Daily of the New China", referencing the CCP's rule post-1949. As for local notability (e.g., on city / province level)... that should probably not be part of English Wikipedia's concern, anyways.
And no, neither of these two has an article on him; or if they had, I can't find them with Baidu. Here's the search engine query link so you may see for yourself using page-translation. People's Xinhua 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 13:51, 25 February 2026 (UTC)Reply