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Needs more sources I think in background section? Adding a little tag Likeanechointheforest (talk) 19:59, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

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The link is https://www.deshawresearch.com/resources_random123.html, but this now redirects to the general DE Shaw Research resources page https://www.deshawresearch.com/resources.html, which has no particular information on CBRNGs. (The issue is not unique to Wikipedia; the official Python documentation currently has the same broken link on this page: https://numpy.org/doc/stable/reference/random/bit_generators/index.html).

The old page is archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20111006042153/https://www.deshawresearch.com/resources_random123.html

The closest existing still-maintained page, still with a download link but with less information, seems to be: https://www.deshawresearch.com/downloads/download_random123.cgi/ 100.2.228.140 (talk) 03:55, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Squares RNG: the sentence does not match its sources

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Current text: This generator passes stringent tests of randomness[8] and is considerably faster than Philox.

Ref [8] (L'Ecuyer et al., WSC 2021) discusses Squares in one passage, and what we quote is its concessive clause: The proposal passes standard empirical tests […] but it fails with only three rounds, and the method is highly heuristic — followed by the finding that keys are not all equally good (key 0 gives constant 0 output), so using 1, 2, …, s as stream keys, as often done in practice, the results will be very bad unless they are hashed first.

"Considerably faster than Philox" is unsourced: ref [8] makes no speed claim, and Widynski's abstract says only that the generators "may be the fastest counter-based generators", without naming Philox. Bastinf (talk) 11:54, 30 August 2026 (UTC)Reply