Talk:Codetermination in Germany

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CJEU case

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

What about the ECJ cas regarding TUI AG which could render German co-determination without effect soon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C9:53F9:AB7B:44E3:AEE:B1E9:E897 (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Conflation of BetrVG and Mittbestimmung

Latest comment: 1 month ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Note to myself/others to double check. My understanding of Drittelbeteiligungsgesetz is that it's a provision of 1/3rd of Supervisory Board seats for companies with 500 employees, and fewer than 1,000 employees, so a modified form of Mitbestimmungsgesetz (with half of supervisory board seats) rather than anything to do with Works Constitution Act/Works Councils. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Responding to myself 4-years later...corporate codetermination concerns employee share on the supervisory board, a limited form of financial codetermination. Works councils have codetermination within the workplace. And then there is longer history of political codetermination as a movement.

In German companies, defined in the Stock Corporation Act, i,e a GmbH, KG or an Aktiengesellschaft
500-2000 employees in regular companies can elect 1/3rd of Supervisory Board Seats
2000+ employees in regular companies can elect 1/2 of supervisory board, with chair chosen by employer
in Coal/Mining company, with 1000+ employees can elect 1/2 of supervisory board, chaired by a neutral person
In a European Company with a presence in Germany, according to Employee Involvement Directive 2001 and transposed legislation, it is...more complicated, see SAP and unions § Court rulings

Confusing! And ~ In solidarity 🦝 Shushugah (talk) 20:55, 22 August 2026 (UTC)Reply