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Latest comment: 3 years ago by RSLitman in topic Rock examples

Correct Provenance?

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According to copies of the original patents showing at Schiedmayer's website, the 1886 patent was

a) by Charles Victor Mustel (not Auguste Mustel). b) clearly labelled "Celesta" c) clearly describing a device that had 2 sound plates per note.

However we are told in this page that

d) C.V Mustel patented the typophone in 1860 e) Auguste Mustel patented the Celesta in 1886

e) is clearly at odds with a)

The celesta (at least the modern one) have only 1 sound plate per note.

Perhaps the typophone was a forerunner of C.V Mustel's "celesta", but if Auguste invented anything it was maybe an improvement of his father's device (removed one of the sound plates per note).

Later patents issued to Mustel and co refer to "Orgue celesta". It's not clear anywhere where the commonly used name "celeste" comes from.[1] 125.238.238.225 (talk) 06:02, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

References

Rock examples

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I always hate it when people add to pop culture listcruft here, so I'm a little embarrassed to be doing this, but: I would argue that the Velvet Underground's "Sunday Morning" and Iggy & the Stooges' "Penetration" are notable rock usages of the celeste. Thoughts?Chowbok 21:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

If you think so, add them. I for one just didn't want it to be a massive list of every little rock song that uses it, out of proportion to the thousands of classical pieces in the last 120 years that have used it. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 23:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

I don't want it to be a massive list of every big classical piece in the last 120 years that used it either. As it stands now, there is too much emphasizing (in every musical genre) in what pieces it's been used and too little emphasizing how it's been used, why it's been used. TheScotch (talk) 08:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

I would like to add "Love Makes the World Go Around" by Deon Jackson because it was the first use of this instrument that ever grabbed my attention, way back in 1966 when I was in the 8th grade (an education level in the U.S. school system that is usually attended at the age of 13 or 14). While the song was still enjoying its chart run, I read an article in a newspaper that explained that the instrument was called a celesta and gave a simple explanation of how it works. I will check back later to see if there are any responses here discouraging me from further expanding this list. If not, I will add it to the list. Posted around 11:45 am U.S. Eastern Daylight Savings Time on June 29, 2023 by RSLitman  Preceding undated comment added 15:48, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I went ahead and added "Love Makes the World Go Round" by Deon Jackson. (I am posting this around 10:55 pm (not 22:55) Eastern Daylight Savings Time on Friday night, July 21, 2023, not on July 22 and certainly not on 22 July (or even 21 July), no matter what the date/time stamp says!) RSLitman (talk) 02:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Construction

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From what I can see, there is barely a sentence relating to the construction of the celesta. I for one would be interested to see a few internal pictures, to read about a description of the action (if there is one), to see the steel plates and know what the hammers are composed of.Colbyhawkins (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

There's a creative commons photo here, showing the hammers and plates. Here it is full-size, not sure if either pic will really show anything, even if it was cropped, detail. It looks like I imagined it: hammers like a piano, plates like a glockenspiel. Raquel Baranow (talk) 04:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

La La Land Score...

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The instrument is used extensively in the score of La La Land but I can't find any good sources except it being in the name of one track ().