Talk:Ashleigh Barty

Cricket career?

There is a total mismatch between the info on her cricket career in the 'Career Statistics' box and the narrative headed "Hiatus . . ." Cross Reference (talk) 17:44, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Someone had changed the headers from Women's National Cricket League to WLA and Women's Big Bash League to WT20. I put an in-between fix. It probably looked wrong because the Brisbane league matches don't count for the WT20 totals. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 18:55, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Renaming, 2022 edition

Recent coverage, post-retirement seems heavily skewed towards calling her "Ash". The titling of this Wikipedia article is increasingly anachronistic. Furthermore, she has credited herself as Ash Barty in her November 2022-released memoir. Park3r (talk) 00:53, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I have wondered why we stick with Barty's birth name "Ashleigh", rather than the more common "Ash". We do not have articles titled "Nicholas Kyrgios", "Rodney Laver", "Anthony Roche" or "Kenneth Rosewall"; Australia is known for applying hypocorisms as common names. An unscientific count at Google reveals "Ash Barty" has 1.8 million Ghits, whereas "Ashleigh Barty" has 1.1 million Ghits. WWGB (talk) 03:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Many participants in the previous move discussion from mid-2021 didn't seem to really take Wikipedia policy into account, as per the closing statement. I think that there was a strong split between Australian and non-Australian sources and voters. Now that she's retired, I suspect the sources are going to be more strongly skewed to Ash. Time to reopen? Park3r (talk) 03:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

But we also have to be careful with recentism. She became notable as Ashleigh Barty and she never changed her Tennis registration to anything but Ashleigh Barty. Does her drivers license say Ash? Do her checks? She's Australian yet her info/bio at he Australian Open says Ashleigh. Does someone have a copy of her wedding license from this past July? Those things are usually public records. Is she now going by Kissick? The governing bodies of tennis still use Ashleigh. We usually use the name they become notable under, like we do with Helen Wills. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I would be surprised if Ms Barty has ever signed a cheque, let alone a check. Such things are almost non-existent in Australia today. HiLo48 (talk) 08:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Considering all the kids who can't write in script at all, that's probably true for many items. Fyunck(click) (talk) 16:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

True, but especially for cheques in Australia. I'm old, and I haven't signed one for at least ten years. HiLo48 (talk) 21:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Heck, I'm old and in the US and it's probably 10 years for me too (until today when I wrote out a check to the installers for a new central ac unit). Lot's of dust on the checkbook. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Documents like a wedding certificate and a driver licence require legal names, not common names. Not relevant here. WWGB (talk) 04:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

This is true but there is common, as in how the press likes to call her to be more familiar, and there's common in how official and notable organizations call her. And she gained notability as a tennis player where she specifically told the ITF how she wanted her first name presented. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

If we're using the name she wants to be known by as a criterion, her memoir uses "Ash Barty". Park3r (talk) 01:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

We are kidding ourselves if we think that tennis players control the name by which tennis authorities report them. I doubt that Evonne Goolagong Cawley wanted her name recorded as "Mrs R Cawley". WWGB (talk) 02:27, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Actually, you raise a good point. It looks like Evonne Goolagong Cawley may be mistitled as well. Is it a widespread phenomenon that WP:COMMONNAME is disregarded for female tennis players? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Park3r (talk • contribs) 04:36, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Tennis players DO control their names as written by tennis authorities. They must register with the ITF spelling they prefer. Stanislaw Warwinka registered with Stanislaw and later changed his ITF spelling to Stan. The registered name is what is used by the ITF/ATP/WTA for all events. Players can changed it for whatever reason they want, such as if they get married. That doesn't mean we always use the ITN registration as the Wikipedia title, but it helps with certain players. While she played professional and jr tennis she went with Ashleigh. Afterwards she seems to use Ash at least as much as Ashleigh. But if Martina Navratilova decides to change her name, the article is going to stay where it is now because of notability under Martina Navratilova. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

RFC that could affect this article is ongoing

There is an ongoing RfC at MOS:Nationality that could affect this article. Please join in the conversation. I'm amazed that this was not placed when the RfC was opened 4 days ago. That was a mistake! Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:46, 22 March 2025 (UTC)