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Latest comment: 9 months ago by NicheSports in topic Potential LLM use discussion
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Promotional possibly LLM generated edits

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I reverted a collection of edits by @ZZ404 that were promotional, often unsourced, and likely LLM-generated. They then reinstated all of these edits. ZZ404, I would ask you to undo this reinstatement. Also, can you please disclose whether you used an LLM to help with these additions to the article? NicheSports (talk) 14:53, 16 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi @NicheSports, i haven't promoted any business or anything, and i always try to be neutral, some of the things you removed were not incorrect or unsourced or LLM generated, some were completely written, while LLM was used to generate some of the text, but those generated parts were human supervised to make sure that they didn't contain any incorrect information and most of the time contained human modifications, I'll try to add more sources in my edits in the future, and i hope i answered all of your questions. ZZ404 (talk) 08:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Whether you were trying to promote something or not, parts of the content you added reads as non-neutral. Also, large sections are unsourced. The edits need to be reverted - can you please do so? NicheSports (talk) 13:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Which parts exactly, could you be more specific, because some of the things you removed were not LLM generated and also were not without a source, if you can tell me which parts need modifications, i will try to add sources and edit or delete them. ZZ404 (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
There is quite a bit of community support for reverting insufficiently reviewed LLM-generated outputs, and not going line by line to preserve any unproblematic content. I am not going to tell you where the problems are. The extensive sections of unsourced content should be readily apparent anyways. NicheSports (talk) 14:01, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
The right approach here is to revert the edits and then you can reinstate the non-LLM generated sections (if they exist) one by one, after first checking to ensure WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:DUE NicheSports (talk) 14:13, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Just to add total support for @NicheSports suggestions and approach here. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:44, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I've been WP:BOLD and restored the page to the last stable version before this raft of changes. Let's now aim to make thoughtful and well sourced additions to the article that effectively communicate the salient facts about the subject of the article, per @NicheSports above. Thanks & best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:47, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@ZZ404 you seem to basically be re-adding the LLM generated content without addressing most of the issues identified above NicheSports (talk) 11:55, 19 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Potential LLM use discussion

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@ZZ404 and I discussed Special:Diff/1323390541 on their talk page and I said I would document here the reasons I think it still contains LLM-generated text.

Not LLM-generated: some parts of this edit are clearly not LLM-generated.

  • In the recent years Ajman has diversified it's economy, as of 2025 Real Estate, Industry, and Tourism sectors have seen significant growth. Contains grammatical errors, appears to be ZZ404's own voice

Potentially LLM-generated

  • Established in 1988, the free zone is home to more than 9,000 companies comprising entrepreneurs and investors from over 145 countries, making it a major contributor to the emirate's GDP. Notably different style to the text above in the "Not LLM-generated" example. Also, the claim about being a major contributor to the emirate's GDP is not supported by the provided source, which does not mention GDP
  • It provides entrepreneurs with flexible licensing and cost-effective business setup solutions tailored to content creators, media production houses, and digital marketing firms. Again, note the differences in style with the example from the "Not LLM-generated" section. Also reads as LLM

Potential copyright vio

  • Most of the text in the bullet point sourced to was copied directly from the source. I assume this was done via LLM, but it could have been done intentionally by a human instead

Unsourced content The last paragraph added in this diff is still unsourced. NicheSports (talk) 06:36, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Here is the source for (It provides entrepreneurs with flexible licensing and cost-effective business setup solutions tailored to content creators, media production houses, and digital marketing firms.) . and the information about Aqaar, was manually copied and slightly rephrased. ZZ404 (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
And as for the (Established in 1988, the free zone is home to more than 9,000 companies comprising entrepreneurs and investors from over 145 countries, making it a major contributor to the emirate's GDP.). You are right, the source doesn't say GDP but instead it says (the free zone has grown to become a major economic driver in the emirate of Ajman), this can easily be fixed, by changing it from (making it a major contributor to the emirate's GDP.) to (making it a major contributor to the emirate's economy.) or it can also be removed. ZZ404 (talk) 09:49, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Oh. So some of the LLM-sounding sections were just outright copyvio. Please don't copy from sources into wikipedia. I'll request revdeletion for these diffs NicheSports (talk) 13:20, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply