Talk:2022 UK Championship

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 14:41, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that Gary Wilson threw his cue stick to the floor in anger at the 2022 UK Championship? Source: https://www.eurosport.co.uk/snooker/uk-championship/2022-2023/he-doesn-t-need-the-toilet-gary-wilson-fumes-i-just-don-t-care-opponent-hits-back-at-uk-championship_sto9219574/story.shtml
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5x expanded by Lee Vilenski (talk) and HurricaneHiggins (talk). Nominated by Lee Vilenski (talk) at 12:21, 10 November 2022 (UTC).

• Lee Vilenski, I think this hook focuses unduly on a negative aspect of a living person – can another hook be found? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:38, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Probably, but I don't really see how this is particularly problematic. It's clearly well cited and quite hooky. We don't just skimp over things simply because they are negative. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:48, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
    • @Lee Vilenski: I'd point you to WP:DYK#gen4a: Articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals or promote one side of an ongoing dispute should be avoided (emphasis in original). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
• The QPQ requirement for this nomination is now five days overdue. As per RfC on excessively late supply of QPQ credits, it should be been completed within one week of nomination. Flibirigit (talk) 02:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

• • Looks like with the finale of the Cup, the UK Championship and the football, I forgot about this. I have supplied a QPQ now Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:34, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
• Nomination needs a full review. Flibirigit (talk) 20:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

• Review underway (might as well, since I watched the whole tournament!!). In view of the possible BLP concerns raised above about the Gary Wilson hook, Lee Vilenski could I ask you to suggest a few more hooks as alternatives please, which I will then assess? Possibilities that occur to me would be Jimmy qualifying at 60, Ronnie's whitewash and the big comeback in the final. There are probably others. Cheers. Review will take place over a period of time this weekend due to article length. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

• I think the issue I have is that those things aren't all the important to a regular reader. There's been enough chat at WT:DYK about making sure that the hooks that we are providing are interesting to the general reader. Maybe if the BLP stuff is to vague, we could simply omit the players name in the hook, and just say: "that at the 2022 UK Championship a player threw his cue stick to the floor in anger?" or similar. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:01, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

• I think that's fair enough. I'm not entirely convinced it violates BLP even by naming Wilson – after all, it was only an angry outburst. Rest of the review will follow shortly. If concerns are raised about the hook later in the process, I am happy to review any alternatives that are provided. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:37, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

• That was pretty much what I thought. BLP doesn't mean not talking about negative aspects should be ignored, and realistically, this isn't a negative aspect of a person, it's a thing that has happened (and is well sourced). Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Review follows:

• While the structure of the article existed earlier, the expansion started with this diff on 9th November, so the article was nominated in time the following day.
• Prose expansion was substantial (somewhere around 30x).
• Currently rated C-class. No doubt a GA submission will follow: the article substantially exceeds C-class now!
• No previous appearance at DYK or "In the News".
• Sources: what I would expect from a snooker article. Various newspapers, BBC News, World Snooker's website, Eurosport and Snooker Scene magazine are used: all are reliable and high-quality for snooker reporting. There is one use of a Daily Mirror story for a very minor fact, which is no problem (The Mirror appears at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources as "no consensus"; I regard it as reliable for sports reporting).
• Spot checks on numerous references show:
  • No close paraphrasing or copyvio;
  • All facts are fully supported by the relevant reference.
  • No content is uncited.
• The hook fact is cited and is suitably interesting. Hook length is OK. To pre-empt any queries: the "outburst" happened during the qualifying stages, rather than the tournament proper, but we don't need to say "...during qualifying for the 2022 UK Championship" or whatever because both qualifying and the tournament proper are part of the same event.
• QPQ review has been undertaken; it is waiting for a QPQ of its own before the nominator can mark it verified.

Verified. A good read. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 17:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

GA?

Hi there, HurricaneHiggins. This article is a very nice and thorough read. I see you were the main contributor to it. I've made a few minor amendments, I've added a couple of links there and there and I've provided alt text for the images. I think it could be nominated for GA, what do you think? Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 08:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, @Alavense! Appreciate your kind words about the article. Yes, I do think it could be nominated for GA. Would you like to do that? You can list me as a co-nominator if you wish. Hope you're well! HurricaneHiggins (talk) 10:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Great, HurricaneHiggins! I'll go over the article once more in a few days and I'll nominate it after that. Thank you and kind regards, Alavense (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Perfect! Thanks, @Alavense. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. HurricaneHiggins (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

GA review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:2022 UK Championship/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Alavense (talk · contribs) 12:36, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 14:51, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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I've made a few tiny tweaks suggested by scripts. Hopefully none are contentious. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Sources

• Looks like a there are some stray "Ivan"s in many of the World Snooker refs, e.g. 86: Ivan (20 November 2022). "Ding Makes Three Centuries To Lead Final". World Snooker. Archived from the original on 20 November 2022. Retrieved 20 November 2022.

Removed. Alavense (talk) 15:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• There is no consensus at WP:RSP on the reliability of Daily Mirror: WP:DAILYMIRROR. I think using it for the info cited here is fine.

I think that everything in that sentence is covered by the other source, so maybe we could just get rid of the Daily Mirror reference. What do you think? Alavense (talk) 16:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Might as well do that, then. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Done that. (Anyway, pinging HurricaneHiggins, who is a co-nominator, in case they disagree.) Alavense (talk) 17:49, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• I think that per WP:CITEVAR/MOS:TITLECAPS, words in "WATCH – Andy Hicks SMASHES reds in anger during heavy defeat to Lyu Haotian at UK Championship"" should not be in all caps, but let me know if you disagree.

Agreed. I changed that. Alavense (talk) 15:30, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• The Europsort citations redirect to TNT pages, as usual. Ideally these could be updated but it's probably not an actual blocker to GA status.

Done, anyway. Alavense (talk) 15:31, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Copyvio Check

• Earwig's Copyvio Detector shows 37.5%. I reviewed the matches over 10% and found no issues. Matches were attributed quotes, titles, and text acceptable per WP:LIMITED such as "the semi-finals of a Triple Crown event for the first time" and "in 2005, 2009 and 2019"

Images

• Images are free to use. Positioning and captions are fine.

Format

• Spot check on "The 2022 UK Championship was a professional snooker tournament that took place from 12 to 20 November at the York Barbican in York, England" / "All matches before the final were played as the best of 11 frames. The final was played as the best of 19 frames" - failed verification. Live page gives a 404 error and the archived version is about the 2021 edition (and is, oddly, dated 2015).

Amended. Alavense (talk) 15:39, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "The fifth ranking event and first Triple Crown tournament of the 2022–23 snooker season," - failed verification. Directs to the corresponding TNT page which does note refer to the UK Championship.

Amended. Alavense (talk) 15:44, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "the 46th edition of the UK Championship," - sources are from 2001 and 2012 so cannot verify this.

Amended. Alavense (talk) 15:47, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "which has remained the case since" - sources are from 2012 and 2013 so aren't appropriate to verify this.

Amended. Alavense (talk) 15:49, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "including John Higgins, who stated that "[Hendry] shouldn't be taking up the space if he is going to pull out" - no issues

Summary: Qualifying rounds

• Is there a reason to use "Brazilian player", "Welsh player" etc for some players but not others?

I don't think there was, so I removed a few. I did leave He became the second Northern Irish player to win the UK Championship, following Alex Higgins in 1983 and Higgins's loss in the round of 32 meant that no Scottish player reached the last 16 of the UK Championship for the first time since 1987, which I think make sense. Alavense (talk) 15:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "King disputed the referee's decision, calling it "ridiculous", while Brown said he was "100% sure"" - no issues
• Spot check on "Zhou Yuelong, who had recently been runner-up at the 2022 Northern Ireland Open," - not verified by cited source

Added. Alavense (talk) 14:10, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "Petrov defeated former world semi-finalist Gary Wilson 6–4 in a match that featured heated incidents between the players" - not verified by cited source

I have rearranged the references, so they are all after the description of the incident. I have also removed the word heated, which I think was a value judgment. Everything else is covered by the provided references, I believe. Alavense (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "The players argued on Twitter after the match" - not verified by cited source, which doesn't say that Wilson put any messages on Twitter.

TNT Sports includes Twitter messages from both players. I have rearranged the references, so let me know what you think about it, but I believe everything is covered. Alavense (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• "Snooker results: Jimmy White rolls back the years to qualify for the UK Championship after beating Dominic Dale" - author is missing from citation

Done. Alavense (talk) 14:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "to reach the last-32 stage of the tournament for the first time since 2010" - no issues
• "Stevens won the first four frames against 19-year-old Wu Yize, making breaks of 126, 63, 75, and 57, but Wu then won five consecutive frames for a 5–4 lead. However, Stevens made a 91 break in the tenth frame to force a decider, which he won with a 58 break." - lacking reference(s).

It was covered by the following reference. However, I agree that it was not very clear, given that the reference was in a different paragraph, so I added another at the end of the previous para. Alavense (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• "Watch – Andy Hicks smashes reds in anger during heavy defeat to Lyu Haotian at UK Championship" - reference link is dead. I can assume good faith but if there is a source it would be better.

Is it, though? The link works for me. Alavense (talk) 14:19, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Looks like it was live on the earlier version of the article too, so I don't know what that was about. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:58, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "Jordan Brown advanced with a 6–3 defeat of Zak Surety, making four half-centuries in the match. The previous season's Welsh Open winner Joe Perry whitewashed former world champion Graeme Dott, making breaks of 86, 102, 134, and 77. David Gilbert advanced with a whitewash victory over King, while Ding secured his place in York with a 6–4 win over Robert Milkins" - almost all unsupported by the archived link, and the live page is a 404. You could try a later archived version.

I updated the archive link, so I think that's fine now. I also removed a mention to Dott being a former world champion, as that fact wasn't supported by the source. Alavense (talk) 14:26, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Summary: Main stage

• Spot check on "Zhao commented that the pressure of his first title defence had affected his play" - not verified by cited source

It was due to an issue with the archived version. I fixed it. Alavense (talk) 10:54, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "Allen commented that he had not looked forward to the match as he had known his good friend Brown since they were 12 years old." - not verified by cited source

Ditto. Alavense (talk) 10:55, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• Spot check on "saying that "the event feels very classy now" and that "the UK Championship deserves this"." - no isues
• I suggest varying the starts of paras "On 13 November,"/"On 14 November,/"On 15 November,"

I changed the second one. Alavense (talk) 13:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• "winning the match in one hour and 44 minutes"/"the four-hour match"/"in one hour and 23 minutes" - I'd suggest either omitting these or giving some context

I removed those, as I don't think any of them were extraordinary. Alavense (talk) 13:51, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• "scored in the double figures in only one frame" - I think it would be better to use " only reached double figures in one frame" from the source. (WP:LIMITED)

Agreed. Changed. Alavense (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• " reaching the quarter-finals of the tournament for an eighth time" - not sure this is worth including, but fine if you want to keep it.

I'm not sure either, so we'll keep it if there's no problem. Alavense (talk) 13:47, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• "Lisowski became the eighth player—the others being Neil Robertson, John Higgins, Gary Wilson, Allen, Murphy, Maguire, and Lu Ning—to make four consecutive centuries in professional competition" - not sure that the list of names is worth including, but fine if you want to keep it.

I'm not sure either, but I guess we can keep it. Alavense (talk) 13:47, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

• "who became the first woman to referee a UK Championship final" - strictly speaking, not verified by source, but probably reasonable to keep this in.

I agree that the source is not ideal, since it has to be inferred that she is the first woman on the list, but the truth is that I'm struggling to find anything that explicitly states that she was the first... And I think it's worth keeping it. Alavense (talk) 13:42, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Main draw/Qualifying draw

• No issues.

Century Breaks

• No issues.

Actually, there was an issue with the archived source, so I had to add a note. I hope that solves it. Alavense (talk) 10:49, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

External links

• Not part of the GA criteria, but the link to "Official website" goes to a 404 page

I added a link to the archived version. Alavense (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Infobox and Lead

All the comments above have been addressed now, BennyOnTheLoose. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 13:51, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Looks fine now, thanks. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:58, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.