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Add consumer electronics articles
[edit]Compared to computing technology articles, the consumer electronics stuff we list is lacking. There are many devices and concepts found in a common living room that we don't have here. I think we should balance this out - I find all of these proposals equally vital to stuff we already list for computing technology.
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We list Phonograph ◎ 5 (or turntable), but not this.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:08, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Cassette deck 
[edit]We need this in addition to turntables and cd players.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Lophotrochozoa (talk) 02:15, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:07, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- I had remained neutral throughout, but when I realized this article was less suitable for the Level 5 list than Tape recorder
—while Cassette tape ◎ 5 was already on it—I decided to vote against it.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:31, 29 August 2026 (UTC) - Per 飞车过大关, I would rather have tape recorder instead. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add 8-track cartridge 
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Lesser known than Cassette tape ◎ 5, but it was popular from the mid-1960s until the early 1980s. We list more niche topics in computing technology.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Lophotrochozoa (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Add Tape recorder
might be better.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:56, 24 February 2026 (UTC) - Bluevestman (talk) 20:10, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Tuner (radio) ◎ 5
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They were a major part of a normal home stereo system along with the cassette deck and CD player.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:00, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- Lophotrochozoa (talk) 23:28, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:35, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Broadcast radio receiver 
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A subtopic of Radio receiver ◎ 5. This is the most familiar consumer radio receiver.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Lophotrochozoa (talk) 18:45, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Personal stereo 
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We list Portable media player ◎ 5 (or mp3 player) and Walkman ◎ 5, but not this.
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Add Portable CD player 
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We list Portable media player ◎ 5 (or mp3 player), but not this.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Has already become a redirect to CD player.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:53, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- Per 飞车过大关. Melozone crissalis (talk) 01:37, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Portable audio player 
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The parent topic for Personal stereo
, Portable CD player
and Portable media player ◎ 5.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Lophotrochozoa (talk) 22:37, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add AV receiver 
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- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Better to simply add Home cinema iënstead.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:52, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:11, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add High fidelity ◎ 5
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A vital topic for home audio and consumer electronics.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:56, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:51, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Home audio 
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A vital general topic for consumer electronics.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:08, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Only 3 interwikis, add Home cinema
might be better.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:49, 24 February 2026 (UTC) - Bluevestman (talk) 23:51, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Surround sound ◎ 5
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Another vital topic for home audio and consumer electronics.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Diamondarmorstev (talk) 22:39, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:24, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:08, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add DVD player 
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Another common device we don't list.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:11, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Dvd is VA5, and it covers this topic. The technology is dying a slow death. Praemonitus (talk) 15:12, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- It was gradually phased out in China after the mid-2010s, which of course also has to do with Chinese people's preference for enjoying entertainment on inexpensive smartphones.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:45, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
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Found in most modern living rooms today.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:54, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:27, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 01:40, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
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Very common before digital television sets became affordable and more popular.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:54, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Short lasting significance. Used in the transition period between analog and digital television and will continue to become less important as fewer people use analog television sets. Recently has 35 daily views, which is not especially high. 96.95.142.29 (talk) 18:34, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, a short term technology with limited impact. Praemonitus (talk) 15:09, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Add Set-top box might be better.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
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Among other uses, an important part of a surround sound system.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 15:54, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Important in music as well. Shocksingularity (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 06:55, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Stereophonic sound 
[edit]Shocked to see, that this is not yet listed. If we are going to add Surround sound, we should add this as well.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:26, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:11, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Set-top box 
[edit]Was a very widespread appliance in living rooms. Cable television ◎ 4 is Level 4.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:25, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:12, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Adjustments to firearms
[edit]Additions
[edit]Add Lever action 
[edit]This is one of the common Action (firearms) ◎ 5 we're missing.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:14, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Only 16 ills, and only about 200 daily pageviews. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 14:18, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- The content is already comprehensive enough that it doesn't need to be on the Level 5 list just to encourage expansion. I also feel its importance aligns more with Level 6 and falls a bit short of the Level 5 threshold. Ultimately, an article with a detailed, rich focus but relatively lower overall importance just isn't a good fit for the Level 5 list.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:28, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Neutral
Add Smoothbore 
[edit]As opposed to a rifled barrel, the M1 Abrams tank uses a smooth bore, as do most shotguns.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:14, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
Add Gas-operated reloading 
[edit]- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Firearms articles on English Wikipedia are always highly specific and detailed, but they tend to focus too narrowly on a niche area, leaving little room for meaningful improvement.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:28, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Neutral
Add Hammer (firearms) 
[edit]We include Firing pin ◎ 5 and Trigger (firearms) ◎ 5.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:16, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
Add Primer (firearms) 
[edit]An important part of modern firearm cartridges, when struck by the firing pin it ignites the gunpowder.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:16, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
Removals
[edit]Glock is a line of firearms, it is listed under "Specific firearms." It should either be removed or moved.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose removal. Shocksingularity (talk) 23:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Move, otherwise oppose. Bluevestman (talk) 20:17, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose move as the models appear to have enough in common to list as specific firearm. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 12:55, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- Neutral
Remove M134 Minigun ◎ 5
[edit]- Support
- Oppose
- Neutral
Remove M4 carbine ◎ 5
[edit]We already have the M16 rifle ◎ 5, we don't need two versions of the same weapon.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:09, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:28, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
Remove Punji stick 
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This is the only Booby trap ◎ 5 we list. I'm not sure it is the best example, and if we aren't going to include many others I don't think we really need this one.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- 8 interwikis.飞车过大关 (talk) 06:10, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 03:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
@GeogSage, 飞车过大关, and Bluevestman: What do you think about swapping with Area denial weapon
? Then instead of a specific weapon, it would cover the broader military technique which encompasses other weapons such as Land mine ◎ 4 and Caltrop ◎ 5. Category:Area denial weapons also lists Barbed wire ◎ 5. Melozone crissalis (talk) 17:47, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
- No. Bluevestman (talk) 17:59, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
- No. 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
- I could see that. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 19:10, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Remove Select fire 
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A very niche Mechanism, allows for the weapon to be a Semi-automatic firearm ◎ 5, Automatic firearm ◎ 5, and/or fire in Burst mode (weapons)
.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Only 8 ill and 56 daily pageviews. Better to include the concrete weapons that people are familiar with. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 14:15, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 04:27, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- Per Femke. Melozone crissalis (talk) 21:38, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 18:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Steel is really, really important to a lot of our articles. We list several articles, like Electric arc furnace ◎ 5 and Blast furnace ◎ 5, but are missing a lot of other very important/historical methods of making it. Listing some concepts/terms related to it's production.
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Per the lede: "A bloomery is a type of metallurgical furnace once used widely for smelting iron from its oxides. The bloomery was the earliest form of smelter capable of smelting iron. Bloomeries produce a porous mass of iron and slag called a bloom. The mix of slag and iron in the bloom, termed sponge iron, is usually consolidated and further forged into wrought iron. Blast furnaces, which produce pig iron, have largely superseded bloomeries."
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Lophotrochozoa (talk) 02:21, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 09:08, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discuss
Add Crucible steel ◎ 5
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Per the lede: "Crucible steel is steel made by melting pig iron, cast iron, iron, and sometimes steel, often along with sand, glass, ashes, and other fluxes, in a crucible. Crucible steel was first developed in the middle of the 1st millennium BCE in Southern India and Sri Lanka using the wootz process." This is among the earliest processes/methods/sources of steel.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:35, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 09:09, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discuss
Add Bessemer process ◎ 5
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Per the lede: "The Bessemer process was the first inexpensive industrial process for the mass production of steel from molten pig iron before the development of the open hearth furnace." This is the process that Andrew Carnegie ◎ 4 invested in and used for the Carnegie Steel Company
to be successful. This innovation allowed a massive amount of high quality steel for use in railroads, automobiles, and military equipment like battleships.
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- This process had a huge impact. 96.95.142.29 (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Important part of the history of the Industrial Revolution. Brigandeur (talk) 18:34, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Praemonitus (talk) 19:32, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discuss
Add Open-hearth furnace 
[edit]Per the lede "An open-hearth furnace or open hearth furnace is any of several kinds of industrial furnace in which excess carbon and other impurities are burnt out of pig iron to produce steel." One of the processes that replaced the Bessemer process
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 09:09, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discuss
Add Basic oxygen steelmaking ◎ 5
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One of the more modern methods of steelmaking that replaced the Bessemer process
- Support
- As nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Produces the majority of steel today, and the most efficient process, according to the article. 96.95.142.29 (talk) 18:47, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 23:35, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 18:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discuss
GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Move or swap Cahora Bassa ◎ 5
[edit]Cahora Bassa ◎ 5 is listed on the Technology page under “Dams”. The problem is that it’s a reservoir formed by a dam, like Lake Mead ◎ 5 and Lake Volta ◎ 4, which are both listed on the Geography-Physical page under “Lakes”. The dam is covered by a separate article, Cahora Bassa Dam
, and seems fairly important too. This should either be moved to the Lakes section, or swapped with Cahora Bassa Dam
.
- Move to lakes
96.95.142.29 (talk) 18:07, 24 September 2025 (UTC)- I used to edit under this IP. I'm striking my vote here. Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 18:35, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Also support remove. But I Oppose for adding.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:37, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Cahora Bassa Dam
- The reservoir isn't that big. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 17:05, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
- I changed my vote. I agree with Lophotrochozoa. Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- List both the lake and the dam
- Discuss
@Akshadev: added two unapproved entries to the list and I removed them. Vote support if you want to add them back or oppose if you don't Lophotrochozoa (talk) 14:35, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Satish Dhawan Space Center
[edit]- Support
- If my vote counts! – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 🗿 14:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:27, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 05:25, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- As it stands, India's space launch capabilities aren't yet important enough to warrant the addition of its launch sites. In particular, its significance doesn't quite match that of China's Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
or the EU's Guiana Space Centre
.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:46, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- As it stands, India's space launch capabilities aren't yet important enough to warrant the addition of its launch sites. In particular, its significance doesn't quite match that of China's Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
- Neutral
Tanegashima Space Center
[edit]- Support
- Oppose
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 05:25, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- The Level 5 article on Tanegashima ◎ 5 already provides sufficient coverage of this facility, so there is no need for a second Level 5 article dedicated to it—especially considering its significance to global space history is lower than that of China's Xichang Satellite Launch Center
.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:46, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- The Level 5 article on Tanegashima ◎ 5 already provides sufficient coverage of this facility, so there is no need for a second Level 5 article dedicated to it—especially considering its significance to global space history is lower than that of China's Xichang Satellite Launch Center
- Neutral
- Discuss
- @Lophotrochozoa: When will these entries be counted as passed? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 🗿 12:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Two weeks after the fourth support vote. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 15:06, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Add Space vehicle
and/or Starship 
[edit]Per the discussion above reglated moving UFO's from literary/SF tropes to parascience and Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Arts_and_everyday_life#Add_{{VA_link|Space_travel_in_science_fiction}}. Spacecraft ◎ 4 is V4; these are worth considering. SV: 4 iwikis. 30 dailies. Star: 23 iwikis. 230 dailies. Given the few dailies on space vehicle, I think only starship merits consideration; the numbers and concept are potentially V5 IMHO.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:01, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support both
- Support space vehicle only
- Support starship only
- Oppose
- Space vehicle is redundant and both level 5 and the technology subpage are over quota.
If they weren't over quota, I would prefer to add Interstellar spaceflightLophotrochozoa (talk) 00:56, 4 February 2026 (UTC)
instead of starship.- Now I see that Interstellar travel ◎ 5 is already listed, as Praemonitus pointed out. This reinforces my point that Starship is redundant.
- Too futuristic.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:48, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Spacecraft and Launch vehicle are both VA4, so I'm not sure I see a need for Space vehicle. Interstellar travel is VA5, which might cover the Starship topic. Praemonitus (talk) 05:31, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
Add Inflatable ◎ 5
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Seems like a pretty major concept. Just 6 iwikis and ~50 dailis. Low, but I think this is worth discussing. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:29, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support
- As nom. -Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:29, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 20:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:43, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 01:42, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Not sure if this needs to be a swap with Inflatable_boat from Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/STEM/Archive_7#Add_Lifeboat_(rescue)_and_Inflatable_boat or Lifebuoy Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/STEM/Archive_7#Add_Lifebuoy_and_Personal_flotation_device both passed 8 months ago.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:53, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- This is a larger concepts, it includes for example toys (I did propose adding toy balloon under everyday life yesterday too). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:36, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
Add Efficient energy use
[edit]Efficient energy use
(or energy efficiency) is the process of reducing the amount of energy required to provide products and services. There are two main motivations: to achieve cost savings, and to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. It includes building design (e.g. reducing heat loss), motor vehicles, appliances, and industry. I would put this somewhere in Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Technology#Energy.
- Support
- Oppose
- Neutral
- In order to avoid disputes over whether temporary accounts can vote, I am proposing this but not voting. ~2025-38531-37 (talk) 01:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Energy conversion efficiency is level 5. Praemonitus (talk) 16:31, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
Remove Repowering
[edit]Repowering ◎ 5 is the process of improving the capacity or efficiency of power stations. I'm sure this happens all the time, but it doesn't seem vital, and has an average of 9 views per day.
- Support
As nom. Melozone crissalis (talk) 23:14, 16 December 2025 (UTC)Removed vote. Melozone crissalis (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
#飞车过大关 (talk) 08:30, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discussion
Good luck trying to drive at night without these. Every car has this.
- Support
#飞车过大关 (talk) 06:29, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:58, 19 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Per Melozone crissalis below, as i would support that instead.
- Per Melozone crissalis.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
- Maybe Automotive lighting
would be a better choice. Melozone crissalis (talk) 22:06, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
Add Crankshaft
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Important part in a Internal combustion engine ◎ 3.
- Support
- As nom. -1ctinus📝🗨 17:43, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- important.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:45, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- And in more devices. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:37, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Types of homes
[edit]Im guessing this goes under STEM for engineering but this could go elsewhere (Everydsy life and society? IDK)
- They should go on Everyday life#Home living. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
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University ◎ 3 is V3 and this is synonymous with studying.
- Support
- as nom. -1ctinus📝🗨 13:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- important.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:56, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:40, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
I see these buildings everywhere in the US. Synonymous with suburbs outside the US too (article is anglocentric)
- Support
- as nom. -1ctinus📝🗨 13:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- important.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:56, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
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One of the most well known types of houses.
- Support
- as nom. -1ctinus📝🗨 13:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- important.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:56, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Studio apartment
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Found everywhere in the cities.
- Support
- as nom. -1ctinus📝🗨 13:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- important.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:56, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
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maybe not as ubiquitous as a cottage or dormitory, but I’m seeing these built everywhere and they are also very common in urban/suburban areas.
- Support
- as nom. -1ctinus📝🗨 13:36, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- important.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:56, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Fine, although the overlap with Tenement
is something to address - but not here, I guess. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:44, 1 February 2026 (UTC) - Bluevestman (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Infamous pesticide used in the Holocaust. Bluevestman (talk) 03:32, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 03:32, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- We were not pests... :( -1ctinus📝🗨 03:38, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 05:16, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Selina Dedalus (talk) 16:14, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Shocksingularity (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- It may only be remembered for its association with one thing, but that thing is inarguably the worst atrocity in modern history. Anything closely associated with the Holocaust should be considered vital. Over 37K monthly pageviews too. I2Overcome talk 02:12, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- There is a proposal to remove Evidence and documentation for the Holocaust ◎ 5 on the History and geography page: Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level_5/History_and_geography#Swap_Evidence_and_documentation_for_the_Holocaust_◎_5_with_Battle_of_Kiev_(1941) Melozone crissalis (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- Lazman321 (talk) 22:22, 19 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Many articles related to the Holocaust are listed. This poison was used to kill over a million people, but the mass murder is what is significant, not the specific poison. I don't see this as vital enough unless the technology page is expanded by several hundred spots to make room for a lot more articles. Melozone crissalis (talk) 05:01, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Per Melozone crissalis. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 18:53, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed. To specific. We can probably find a better Holocaust article to swap with (ping User:Buidhe). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:48, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Per piotrus. (t · c) buIdhe 17:16, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
The world's most produced bomber.
- Support
- Oppose
Remove season extension
[edit]Only three interwikis.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- KhaiDo (talk) 01:48, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 17:39, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
In the bottom 200 by VitalScore. Bluevestman (talk) 21:44, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Windows Media Player
[edit]Windows media player is known by virtually everyone and all cultures who had/has a windows computer, and was in many ways, synonymous with music and it’s industry as a whole alongside software such as Napster or Winamp, before services such as spotify and youtube took over.
WMP has an extensive history spanning from it’s early days in windows 95/98, to the massively popular WMP 8/9/10, preinstalled on Windows XP, which was used in over 1 billion computers, to the WMP 12 we see today since Windows 7. Over it’s history, WMP introduced and popularized many features and habits to the masses, such as media library organization, the act of CD ripping, music visualizations such as Alchemy or Battery, and more.
There were also many skins during WMP’s hayday, spanning almost all popular aesthetics during that timeframe, such as Y2K, McBling, or even Frutiger Aero to name a few. Very few media players ever matched the extensive skin support from official companies, such as Nintendo, Valve, Nvidia, or Disney to name a few, releasing skins for various IP’s such as NSMB, Half Life 2, Age of Mythology, and more.
Drawing comparisons here, VLC media player ◎ 5 was introduced a bit later during 2001, and featured many of the same features. VLC however, had extensive built-in codec support without the use of third-party codec bundles such as k-lite, making it more convenient to play many niche formats and codecs. However, VLC was never preinstalled on windows, making it much less popular during the early and mid-2000’s, though this would soon change, being released for other platforms such as Android, macOS, and Linux.
WMP is still preinstalled on Windows to this day, despite it’s 2022 successor, and is still used by many people to this day, If VLC media player was able to get level 5 vital article status, so shall Windows Media Player, due to it’s significance to computing and music as a whole to the general masses back then.
- Support
- As nom.Dylan240 (talk) 12:03, 29 January 2026 (UTC)
- Famous and widely used. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:57, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 00:44, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 04:35, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
- Also support swap with VLC media player ◎ 5 (But I oppose directly adding).飞车过大关 (talk) 19:22, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Might be too meme-y, but a very well-known and very strong type of tape.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 07:49, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
- Support adding this and Adhesive tape ◎ 5.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 20:12, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
- @LaukkuTheGreit Adhesive tape already has five votes for addition above. Do you know where it should be listed? Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, voted. Maybe under WP:Vital articles/Level/5/Technology#Tools?--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 21:46, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
- Ok, I've added it. Melozone crissalis (talk) 22:49, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, voted. Maybe under WP:Vital articles/Level/5/Technology#Tools?--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 21:46, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
- @LaukkuTheGreit Adhesive tape already has five votes for addition above. Do you know where it should be listed? Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Royal Road
[edit]Important Achaemenid road.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 10:30, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:34, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 22:40, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove Names of the days of the week
[edit]This is a very specific article for this level. We already list Day ◎ 3 and that should cover it.
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 23:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- Per nom. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 03:22, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- As Feynman once said, knowing what something is called is not the same as truly understanding it.飞车过大关 (talk) 12:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- This is not a science article; it's a technology article. It's listed under Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Technology § Navigation and timekeeping. Months and weeks are human constructs, whereas day (the time it takes for the Earth to rotate once on its axis) and year (the time it takes for Earth to rotate the Sun) are matters of physics. – wbm1058 (talk) 09:10, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- This is a subtopic of Week § Days of the week, which is listed under Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/Physical sciences § Time. – wbm1058 (talk) 12:12, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- With Day ◎ 3 and Week ◎ 4, there is room for this.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:16, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
Add Relational model
and/or Relational database 
[edit]The relational model is an extremely important approach to Data ◎ 4 and created by Edgar F. Codd ◎ 5. Relational database pretty much puts this approach into a Database ◎ 4 which is also extremely important to this field. Both are top-importance on WikiProject Computer Science. SQL ◎ 5 was built upon this approach.
- Support
- As nom. B3251(talk) 23:46, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
- Support both.飞车过大关 (talk) 04:08, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
- Support both. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 11:29, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- Support both. Bluevestman (talk) 23:59, 19 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Move English longbow ◎ 5 from History to Technology
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It should be under Longbow ◎ 5.
- Support
- As nom. Dess Dedalus (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- Other medieval weapons such as Trebuchet ◎ 5 are already there.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:34, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:41, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Signature
Dess Dedalus (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
Add Smartglasses
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These will likely become mainstream in the years to come.
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 16:39, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
- They would need to be mainstream to be VA4, but at this level, I think being a significant technological advancement is enough. Melozone crissalis (talk) 23:44, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Let's see it happen first... Dess Dedalus (talk) 19:48, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Too soon. Bluevestman (talk) 22:50, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:03, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Not very mainstream.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:31, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Add Facebook Messenger
[edit]It ranks pretty highly for most used messaging services. It has more users than a messaging app like Telegram (software) ◎ 5 which we list.
- Support
- Oppose
- Bluevestman (talk) 01:33, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:06, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Some big port
[edit]Swap Port of Port Hedland
for Port of Shanghai ◎ 5
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The Port of Port Hedland is merely an Australian harbor renowned for its Iron ore ◎ 5 exports. It is not among the world's top fifty busiest container ports, and its cargo throughput also falls short when compared to ports such as the Port of Qingdao
, Port of Tangshan
(with the Tangshan ◎ 5 region being one of the largest steel-producing areas in the world), Port of Guangzhou
…… (The port with the largest cargo tonnage is not as significant as the busiest container port itself.) In contrast, the Port of Shanghai, which has 34 interwikis, is the world's busiest container port and the world's second-largest port by cargo throughput.
- Support
- The undisputed world's largest port.飞车过大关 (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Per nom. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 23:23, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- The Account 2 (talk) 12:43, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- Axeledits (talk) 13:16, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 14:15, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Swap Port of Barcelona ◎ 5 with Port of Antwerp 
[edit]Among the dozen or so ports we have listed, the Port of Barcelona is only Spain's third largest container port—it does not even rank among the world's top fifty. In contrast, the Port of Antwerp is Europe's second largest and the world's 14th busiest container port, and it also holds great significance for Belgium's economy.
- Support
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Only support removal. Antwerp ◎ 4 doesn't seem major enough for my liking. Instead, I'd swap with Port of Shenzhen
, the 4th busiest port in the world.
- If you're interested, you could consider removing the Port of Hamburg ◎ 5 and adding the Port of Shenzhen
. However, I personally would prefer adding either the Port of Xiamen
or the Port of Guangzhou
, as these two ports were among the earliest Chinese ports that Westerners entered in modern times, and they remain among the world's top fifteen largest ports to this day.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:30, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- If you're interested, you could consider removing the Port of Hamburg ◎ 5 and adding the Port of Shenzhen
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:56, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- The Port of Antwerp has great historical depth dating back to the 12th century. KhaiDo (talk) 14:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Swap PortMiami ◎ 5 with Tanger Med ◎ 5
[edit]PortMiami has only 13 interwikis and is not among the top five container ports in the United States. In fact, I cannot even find the name of this port in the latest edition of the world's busiest container ports list. In contrast, Tanger Med is one of the world's largest industrial ports, and it is also Africa's busiest port and the world's 20th busiest container port.
- Support
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 16:28, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with Bluevestman's points. Given that the Level 5 list has fewer than 20 ports, I am changing my vote to oppose the addition. 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:49, 19 July 2026 (UTC)
- Per nom. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 23:40, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Axeledits (talk) 13:16, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support removal, oppose addition. Bluevestman (talk) 19:57, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- ARoseThorn (talk) 04:29, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Strong support remove, weak support add since although I'm generally not in favor of adding more modern ports, according to UNCTAD in 2023,
an estimated 35% of African trade with the rest of the world is passing through Tanger Med, which is connected to about 40 African ports.
Therefore, this port complex seems to hold exceptional importance on a continental level. KhaiDo (talk) 14:31, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
@Lazman321: This was incorrectly closed as the tally of votes on adding Tanger Med was 3-2. I reverted the closure and added my own vote. KhaiDo (talk) 14:31, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
Swap Port of Kobe
with Port Klang ◎ 5
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The Port of Kobe is one of Japan's major ports, but it is not considered one of the world's top 20 most important ports. In fact, according to the latest container port throughput rankings, this port no longer ranks among the world's 50 busiest container ports, and its status has even been surpassed by the ports of Tokyo, Yokohama, and Nagoya, placing it at a level similar to that of the Port of Osaka. In contrast, Port Klang, located along the Strait of Malacca, is the busiest port in Southeast Asia and the world's 11th busiest container port, holding exceptional significance for Malaysia's economy.
- Support
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 16:36, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Per nom. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 23:40, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Axeledits (talk) 13:15, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:57, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Swap Port of Yokohama ◎ 5 with Port of Hong Kong 
[edit]The Port of Yokohama is Japan's second largest port, but unfortunately it is not among the world's 50 busiest container ports and can hardly be considered one of the world's top 20 most important ports. In contrast, Hong Kong's port has been one of the world's busiest since its colonization by the British. By the end of the 20th century, it had become the world's busiest container port. To this day, it remains the world's 10th busiest container port.
- Support
- Among the world's most significant metropolitan areas, Hong Kong is the only one whose original name includes the word "port", underscoring the immense importance of the port to the city.飞车过大关 (talk) 16:43, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support removal, weak support for addition. Nearby Port of Shenzhen
is busier, and we have a few ports in China and surrounds, but I think the historical significance pushes it to vitality. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 23:40, 4 March 2026 (UTC) - Support removal. Bluevestman (talk) 19:58, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support removal, oppose add. The list should not have more modern ports, but rather important ancient ones such as Port of Piraeus
, Alexandria Port
, Carthage Punic Ports
, Portus
. KhaiDo (talk) 14:13, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Swap: Remove IBM POWER architecture ◎ 5, add PowerPC 
[edit]The latter is the successor of the former, with way better stats (~450 vs. ~25 daily pageviews, 39 vs. 7 interwikis).
- Support
- As nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:37, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:59, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Only support remove IBM POWER architecture ◎ 5 and add Reduced instruction set computer
, I believe that abstract concepts are superior to concrete products.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:31, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
This what the relevant part currently looks like:
The removal candidate is listed alongside mostly other specific architecture families, so in that sense PowerPC seems a more consistent swap. In theory I would be open to also adding Reduced instruction set computer, but Technology is way overquota.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 20:22, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- I might swap IBM POWER with PowerPC and MIPS with RISC. I think MIPS is harder to justify than the other architectures there. Sesquilinear (talk) 01:06, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
Add Monochrome photography and Color photography
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Each important forms of photography.
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 01:11, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support both, the former a bit weakly because of its low stats (4 interwikis, 67 daily pageviews). Color photography ◎ 5 especially makes sense because we already include the more specific Color motion picture film ◎ 5.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 09:02, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Only support Color photography.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- oppose Monochrome photography. 飞车过大关 (talk) 10:46, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 10:02, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support color photography. Oppose monochrome photography. Bluevestman (talk) 22:23, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
Add Transmission medium 
[edit]Suggested to add on level 4 talk page.
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 15:28, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 16:14, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 18:36, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
Add La Amistad
[edit]Spanish schooner known for the July 1839 revolt by illegally captured Mende. The would-be slaves eventual victory in the US Supreme Court is a pretty big moment for the American abolitionists. (The revolt itself doesn't have its own article.)
- Support
- Oppose
- If the vote to add the Russian cruiser Aurora
is vetoed, then what is the point of adding a ship that only has an impact on the American abolitionist movement?飞车过大关 (talk) 03:56, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
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Add Camera obscura ◎ 5
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Even more so than the recently added Daguerrotype
, this is an important imaging tool with a very long history.
- Support
- As nom Axeledits (talk)
- Melozone crissalis (talk) 17:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 17:51, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 18:01, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Axeledits (talk) 12:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Remove the Bottom 200 by VitalScore
[edit]So almost a year ago, GeogSage created a dataset that shows the various stats these articles have that could help us determine if an article is actually vital or not. I will nominate the bottom 200 by this score, which can be found here (thanks User:LaukkuTheGreit). Common factors with these articles are low interwikis, unknown amount of watchers beyond it being less than thirty, and subpar page views.
Now, here are the nominees:
Remove surveyor's wheel
[edit]Less than 30 watchers. Amount of interwikis (11) and daily average views for last month (22) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Restricted to devices used in the modern West, now rendered obsolete by history.飞车过大关 (talk) 13:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Weak oppose, historically rather important. Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:10, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 20:04, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Remove nuclear transfer
[edit]Only eight interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 13 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Despite this, the low efficiency of the technique has prompted some researchers, notably Ian Wilmut, creator of Dolly the cloned sheep, to abandon it.
飞车过大关 (talk) 13:34, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
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Remove bioaugmentation
[edit]Only eight interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 10 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Wastewater treatment
, bioaugmentation is a type of Bioremediation ◎ 5, common used in wastewater treatment.飞车过大关 (talk) 13:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 00:43, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
Remove Future Air Navigation System
[edit]Only two interwikis. Amount of watchers (32) and daily average views for last month (28) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Too narrow and specialized, and not as significant as Data link
.飞车过大关 (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2026 (UTC) - ARoseThorn (talk) 02:24, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove availability factor
[edit]Only five interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 13 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:05, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Reliability engineering
.飞车过大关 (talk) 13:48, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 00:44, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
Remove drafting machine
[edit]Only seven interwikis and less than 30 watchers. Daily average views for last month (24) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- A American invention of the 20th century, superseded by the Plotter
prior to the turn of the 21st century.飞车过大关 (talk) 13:54, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Weak oppose. These are no longer used much, but relatively important historically. Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:07, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Remove cam follower
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Only two interwikis. Amount of watchers (exactly 30) and daily average views for last month (19) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Axeledits (talk) 13:33, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:06, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 13:58, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Only four interwikis. Daily average views for last month (25) also mediocre, but it does have a decent amount of watchers (47).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Just as insignificant as the Trans-European conventional rail network
.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:01, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Also not important than High-speed rail in China
.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:02, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- China Railway High-speed ◎ 5 is listed. Do you think they should be switched or merged? Melozone crissalis (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think we should use High-speed rail in China
instead of China Railway High-speed ◎ 5.飞车过大关 (talk) 20:08, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think we should use High-speed rail in China
- China Railway High-speed ◎ 5 is listed. Do you think they should be switched or merged? Melozone crissalis (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
Remove planter (farm implement)
[edit]Only four interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 14 a day.
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- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove orthopedic boot
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Only two interwikis and less than 30 watchers. Daily average views for last month (30) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Axeledits (talk) 13:31, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
First nuclear-powered submarine.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove the Bottom 200 by VitalScore (part 2)
[edit]Continuing.
Only six interwikis and daily average views for last month was 10 a day. Does have a decent amount of watchers (46).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Interface (computing)
.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:20, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 19:52, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove soil vapor extraction
[edit]Only five interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 6 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Overly esoteric, specialized, and granular concepts.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:30, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove stadimeter
[edit]Only six interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 10 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- An obscure device used exclusively in the US from the 1890s to the mid-20th century, now largely consigned to history.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove chemosterilant
[edit]Only three interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 3 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Alkylation
.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:40, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 19:53, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Only three interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 5 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- A little-known 20th-century agricultural concept that had no impact save for influencing Community-supported agriculture ◎ 5.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:38, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove Astronomical Almanac
[edit]Only six interwikis and daily average views for last month was 11 a day. Does have a decent amount of watchers (55).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't understand why this British almanac is considered one of the 1,000 most important publications in the world. I think this is a bit Western-centric.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:45, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove shared transport
[edit]Only three interwikis and daily average views for last month was 12 a day. Does have a decent amount of watchers (40).
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove lattice phase equaliser
[edit]Only four interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 7 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Electronic filter
.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:48, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 19:54, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove postharvest
[edit]Only eight interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 5 a day.
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- Oppose
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Remove somatic fusion
[edit]Only eight interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 15 a day.
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- Oppose
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Major bomber; has been in service since 1955.
- Support
- Oppose
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Add Short form content
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This is the type of content that TikTok started a revolution of and now we have companies like YouTube, Instagram, and Snapchat already implementing it. Easy support from me and I would consider it level 4 vital.
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 21:26, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- 22:28, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Sometimes more dominant than long form content like reqular youtube in many contexts. Dylan240 (talk) 01:48, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 09:40, 6 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove the Bottom 200 by VitalScore (part 3)
[edit]Continuing.
Remove pollination management
[edit]Only one interwiki, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 6 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Pollinator
(22 interwikis).飞车过大关 (talk) 17:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 19:04, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Less than 30 watchers. Amount of interwikis (10) and daily average views for last month (22) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- It is merely a collective concept comprising a vast network of roads in the Arab region, and its significance in the realm of international treaties may actually outweigh its importance in the transportation sector.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:52, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Given the ongoing conflicts in the Arab region, I suspect that this international highway network is essentially a political concept with very little practical cooperation.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Remove beneficial organism
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Only eight interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 6 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- It is merely the antonym of Pest (organism) ◎ 5.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:56, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Axeledits (talk) 22:29, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove negative impedance converter
[edit]Only four interwikis and less than 30 watchers. Daily average views for last month (19) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Negative resistance
(21 interwikis).飞车过大关 (talk) 17:58, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 19:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Only seven interwikis and less than 30 watchers. Daily average views for last month (18) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- This concept is far too obscure. It was likely included solely due to its connection with Native Americans. However, I believe the field of agriculture should not be concerned with political correctness quotas, but rather focus on well-known concepts that are universally recognized globally.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:01, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove environmental biotechnology
[edit]Only eight interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 9 a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Environmentally friendly process
.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove integrated modular avionics
[edit]Only four interwikis and less than 30 watchers. Daily average views for last month (22) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not important than Safety-critical system
.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:05, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove micromachinery
[edit]Only five interwikis and daily average views for last month was seven a day. Does have a decent amount of watchers (46).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Microtechnology
(30 interwikis).飞车过大关 (talk) 18:06, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose swap. Page views for that is also pretty bad. Bluevestman (talk) 19:41, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
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Remove agricultural cycle
[edit]Only two interwikis, less than 30 watchers, and daily average views for last month was 8 a day.
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- Oppose
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Remove primary mirror
[edit]Daily average views for last month was 8 a day. Amount of interwikis (11) and watchers (31) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not important than Objective (optics)
.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:09, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Burma Railway
[edit]Infamous WWII-era railroad built by enslaved Southeast Asians and Allied POWs.
- Support
- Oppose
- It was a fleeting railway line in WWII, one that was arguably less consequential than the Burma Road
or The Hump
.飞车过大关 (talk) 09:48, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Remove the Bottom 200 by VitalScore (part 4)
[edit]Continuing.
Remove pharmaceutical engineering
[edit]Only three interwikis, less than thirty watchers, and average views for last month was fourteen a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- we have Medication ◎ 3 (Redirected from Pharmaceutical), Pharmaceutical industry ◎ 5, Drug discovery ◎ 5, Pharmacy ◎ 4, Biomedical engineering ◎ 4…
- Not sure who voted above, but per their reasoning. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Less than thirty watchers, and average views for last month was fifteen a day. Amount of interwikis (10) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Rendering (computer graphics)
.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:17, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 17:58, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:11, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap.Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove metasyntax
[edit]Only one interwiki, and average page views for last month was thirteen a day. Does have decent amount of watchers (64).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not important than Metalanguage
.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:19, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Only seven interwikis. Amount of watchers (32) and daily average views for last month (29) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- The Level 5 list doesn't need to list every Western measuring instrument, especially those that are obsolete.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:21, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove shared-use path
[edit]Only nine interwikis. Amount of watchers (33) also mediocre. I would like to include the page views for last month, but this page saw an inexplicable spike on April 7, heavily distorting its daily average.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- It's just another road for bikes.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:24, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove spinning (polymers)
[edit]Only nine interwikis. Amount of watchers (35) and daily average views for last month (19) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- It is too specialized a manufacturing process for the Level 5 list.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:26, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap with Spinning (textiles)
, the main spinning article which ought to be on VA4 instead of Hand spinning ◎ 4.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:09, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove shading language
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Only four interwikis. Daily average views for last month (39) also mediocre, but does have decent amount of watchers (43).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Swap with Shader ◎ 5.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:27, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap with shader. Dylan240 (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap with Shader.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:54, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 18:27, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
Only three interwikis and less than thirty watchers. Daily average views for last month (23) also mediocre.
- Support
- Oppose
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Remove mechanical screening
[edit]Only six interwikis, and average views for last month was fifteen a day. Amount of watchers (36) also mediocre.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove contact fuze
[edit]Only five interwikis and less than thirty watchers. Does have a decent daily average views for last month (38).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not important than Artillery fuze
.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:35, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove the Bottom 200 by VitalScore (part 5)
[edit]Final batch.
Remove line-replaceable unit
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Only three interwikis and less than thirty watchers. Page views are really suspicious, as there is very clearly a pattern that I have only seen with fellow bottom 200 member Stabat Mater (Pergolesi), and that one simply sees a spike of views every Easter.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- It's too specialized and obscure—not as important as Aircraft Maintenance
.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC) - Support outright removal or a swap with Spare part
.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC) - ARoseThorn (talk) 04:38, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove penetrator (aircraft)
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Besides only consisting of two paragraphs, this article also only has three interwikis, less than thirty watchers, and daily average view of thirty for last month.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Overly specialized and obscure jargon.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Too specific concept relating to Bomber ◎ 4 aircraft.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Per above. ARoseThorn (talk) 04:36, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove semi-rigid airship
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Stats for this is mostly mediocre than outright awful (12 interwikis, 31 watchers, average for the last month 59 a day).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Why do aviation articles need to list so many granular concepts? Other technical fields don't even have their key concepts included in the VA list.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Rigid airship ◎ 5 and Blimp ◎ 5 may be enough, they get much more views.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Seems like a marginal category of transportation. ARoseThorn (talk) 04:35, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove lithophane
[edit]This might be a result of a bug in whatever was used to extract this list, because other than having eleven interwikis, stats for this are decent (49 watchers, average for last month 50 views a day). I think I'll wait to cast my vote until someone also agrees this should be removed.
- Support
- Not important than Rock relief
.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC) - Bluevestman (talk) 21:57, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- "By the end of the 19th century lithophanes had largely fallen from fashion", even if "in recent decades they have had something of a revival".--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove all-pass filter
[edit]Might have to double-check on my nominations, because this also has a suspicious pattern regarding page views. Other stats for this also bleh (9 interwikis, 39 watchers).
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Filter (signal processing) ◎ 4 is enough.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Weak oppose, decent pageviews. Remove its sublisting Lattice phase equaliser ◎ 5 instead, it gets much lower pageviews (and already has an ongoing removal nom).--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Remove breakdown (vehicle)
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Less than two interwikis, and average views for last were fifteen a day. Amount of watchers (35) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Maintenance ◎ 5 is enough.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Useless dictionary term. Not more vital than Fracture
.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC) - Per above. More cuts need to be made given the quota issues. ARoseThorn (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove Indigenous horticulture
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Only one interwiki, less than thirty watchers, and average views for last month was four a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Why do we need a specific Horticulture article that lumps together the cultural customs of all indigenous users worldwide? Is this kind of generalization really a form of respect for their uniqueness?飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Niche, uselessly broad intersection of two topics.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Per 飞车过大关. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 21:30, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove agricultural soil science
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Less than four interwikis, and average views for last were fourteen a day. Amount of watchers (33) also mediocre.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Soil science ◎ 4, Pedology ◎ 5, Edaphology ◎ 5 is enough.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Agricultural science ◎ 4 and Soil science ◎ 4 are enough.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Per above. ARoseThorn (talk) 04:32, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Remove liming (leather processing)
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Only one interwiki, less than thirty watchers, and average views for last month was sixteen a day.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not important than Leather production processes
.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC) - Per above. Support outright removal or a swap with Leather production processes
, although the Production processes section in Leather ◎ 4 may be enough.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:14, 15 May 2026 (UTC) - Agree with LaukkuTheGreit. ARoseThorn (talk) 04:40, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
When (usually generative) Artificial intelligence ◎ 3 (AI) makes stuff up and presents it as fact, which is a major flaw with these technologies. ~20-30+ iwikis.
- Support
- As nom. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/it • talk • edits) 11:32, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Ipedecha (talk) 12:40, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 18:01, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Per LaukkuTheGreit.飞车过大关 (talk) 12:04, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- As LaukkuTheGreit said, there are many other AI topics which are more worthy of inclusion. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:23, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- KhaiDo (talk) 13:57, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
While a notable concept, it's a bit recentist and there's a few other AI/CS items I'd add first, such as Backpropagation
, Pseudorandom number generator
, Transformer (deep learning)
, Reinforcement learning
, Integer (computer science)
and String (computer science)
. Not feeling strongly enough against to oppose now though.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 12:14, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Add Storm drain
[edit]Last year, Drainage ◎ 4 was redirected to Storm drain
, so it was replaced on the Level 4 and 5 lists in Special:Diff/1298387166, but the article was soon restored so I've changed it back to Drainage. I'm unsure if Storm drain is actually important enough, but it was discussed here: Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level 4/Archive 27#Add Drainage.
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- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Dike Kokaral dam
[edit]Single-handedly the reason why the north aral sea is not drying up anymore unlike the south aral sea, which keeps drying up, as the syr darya river, a level 4 vital article, ends at the north aral sea, a level 5 vital article, and keeps water from flowing southward so water in the north could stay consistent. Also, the dam helped revitalize the fishing industry to acceptable levels around the north aral sea, and is extremely important to the region around the northern aral sea, and Kazakhstan. Dylan240 (talk) 04:39, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- I think it's a bit much for the Level 5 list to include both the South Aral Sea ◎ 5 and the North Aral Sea ◎ 5. Do we really need that many articles just to highlight the importance of the Aral Sea? 飞车过大关 (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Compared to some dams at level 5, I feel like the dike kokaral dam would sit in the middle in terms of importance, and higher than some dams, like the Grand Coulee Dam that created the reservoir of Franklin D. Roosevelt Lake, but that's a really long lake and not really centered like the north aral sea, despite being the largest lake in washington and wasn't that large before the dam was built, the Bratsk Hydroelectric Power Station, despite being impressive in sheer watts produced, is also in a similar situation like the grand coulee and it's lake, and is in Russia, and the Rogun Dam, is under construction.
- The dike kokaral dam is unique in the sense that it's keeping a remanant of a formerly huge lake back then up at acceptable levels, and unlike the South Aral Sea, which blows lots of toxic dust due to it being almost completely dried up, and the remanining water areas have extreme salinity levels, the north aral sea now has acceptable salinity levels for saltwater fishing and is the largest remanant of the former Aral Sea, a level 4 vital article, and right now is roughly compariable to Poyang Lake, another level 4 vital article, and even made the sealevel come much closer to the city of Aralsk, the largest city around the aral sea and was the largest fishing hub around the former aral sea before it's collapse, though it has somewhat recovered now, but not pre-1964 levels.
- I also feel like the South Aral Sea is worth keeping at level 5 since it was the site of the largest part of the north aral sea, and now blows deadly dust storms and severly affected the regional population. Dylan240 (talk) 06:08, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Topics discussed on level 4 that haven't been proposed at level 5
[edit]Here is a list of technology topics discussed on level 4 talk pages that haven't been proposed at level 5, and which are not listed. Some of these are not important enough, but some may be worth considering.
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Melozone crissalis (talk) 02:12, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- We could add Calendar date
Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:06, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
Add some measuring instruments
[edit]Add Rain gauge ◎ 5
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Most important tool in Hydrology ◎ 4, and widely used in Meteorology ◎ 4 as well.
- Support
- KhaiDo (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:23, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:04, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- ARoseThorn (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Goniometer 
[edit]Any tool for Angle ◎ 3 measurement, including the protractor, which does not have a seperate article here but is surprisingly available in 57 languages.
- Support
- KhaiDo (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:23, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- ARoseThorn (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Galvanometer 
[edit]Instrument to measure Electric current ◎ 4.
- Support
- KhaiDo (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:23, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- ARoseThorn (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Micrometer (device) 
[edit]Widely used in Mechanical engineering ◎ 3 and Machining ◎ 5 for precise measurement, usually in the form of Calipers ◎ 4.
- Support
- KhaiDo (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:23, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- ARoseThorn (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Nominating this here, but I am mostly advocating its inclusion due to zip lining's popularity as a recreational adventure sport.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:29, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Add this under sport Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:04, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add BlackBerry
[edit]Played an important part in the development of the Smartphone ◎ 4.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Qt (software)
[edit]Qt is a very important stylesheet language that's used in a lot of interfaces, like KDE Plasma, LG webOS, Ableton Live, DaVinci Resolve, Krita, OBS Studio, QBittorrent, TeamViewer, VLC media player, and much more, and although not as important as CSS, which is basically the presentation and Web design part of virtually every webpage of the Internet, and is undergoing nomination to level 4, Qt is still important due to it's very wide usage across software and interfaces, and i feel would be the perfect 2nd stylesheet language to include at level 5 or above. Dylan240 (talk) 19:10, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Support
- (nom) Dylan240 (talk) 19:59, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Oppose
- The technical section of the Level 5 list lacks sufficient quota.Even with adequate quota, this programming language absolutely cannot be considered among the 500+ most important IT concepts—unless you intend to allocate 1,900 dedicated slots exclusively for IT concepts.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:20, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Per 飞车过大关. Melozone crissalis (talk) 19:54, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:08, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- Qt simply isnt important enough for me to approve its inclusion. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:20, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- It's roughly as important as GTK
, but I would also prefer the removal of GTK. Perhaps I'm just biased against the inclusion of specific development frameworks. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:58, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
- It's roughly as important as GTK
Discuss
Add Pelton wheel
[edit]First truly efficient impulse-type water turbine.
- Support
- Oppose
- We don't even have Water turbines
, why should we adding this thing specifically?飞车过大关 (talk) 04:35, 20 May 2026 (UTC) - I'd support the inclusion of Water turbine, but this is slightly too specific. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:39, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Longest continuous bridge over water in the world, and for a very long time the longest bridge over water in the world period.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 00:58, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:14, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- This is another proposal that reinforces the US-centric bias of the Level 5 list. Apart from once making it onto a world record list, this American bridge has no other outstanding significance. Besides, it is only the sixth longest bridge in the world. Adding these bridges is even less necessary than adding the Beijing–Shanghai high-speed railway
, since several of the top10 longest bridges globally are actually part of this railway line. Of course, I have more important and older railways to add, so I will not support nominating the Beijing–Shanghai high-speed railway either.飞车过大关 (talk) 04:40, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Getting real sick of you accusing me of having an US bias. Bluevestman (talk) 18:08, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
- Only one of a few bridges that transport goods on Lake Pontchartrain, and always has lots of land left of the estuary, and despite being impressive, not much goods are actually transported on this route in comparison to the land left, and the more capable bridges right. Dylan240 (talk) 06:59, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add either Rice Terraces of the Philippine Cordilleras or Banaue Rice Terraces
[edit]Not sure if individual terraces can be vital, but the fact that some of them are listed as World Heritage Sites might be an indication for their vitality. While the former is the actual Site entry, I would rather list the latter since that has better stats.
- Add Rice Terraces of the Philippine Cordilleras
- Add Banaue Rice Terraces
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Appalachian Trail
[edit]Please don't accuse me of having an American bias for nominating this, but I just think we should have a trail designed specifically for leisure hiking, and this appears to have the best stats.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Is this not a geography article? how is this technology Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 13:40, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- Roads/trails are under technology. Bluevestman (talk) 04:24, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
Add horse harness
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Harness for horses. Basically the thing that allows the horse to become a beast of burden.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:01, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support swap. Bluevestman (talk) 22:00, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- Important, for millennia. Would also support swapping out Shifter (bicycle part) ◎ 5. Melozone crissalis (talk) 06:54, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:11, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Messerschmitt Me 262
[edit]First jet-powered fighter aircraft.
- Support
- Oppose
- But not impactful outside first-sth trivia. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:14, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Move some engineering topics
[edit]The Engineering lists several topics related to specific branches of technology which could alternatively be listed with those branches. I would like to move the following:
- Nanotechnology and Molecular machine to Chemicals
- Nuclear technology to Energy, specifically Nuclear power
- Agricultural engineering to Agriculture
- Biochemical engineering and Pharmaceutical engineering to Chemicals
- Ceramic engineering to Materials
- Chemical engineering and subtopics to Chemicals
- Nuclear engineering to Energy, specifically Nuclear power
- Civil engineering and subtopics to Infrastructure
- Computer engineering to Computing
- Energy engineering and subtopics to Energy
- Aerospace engineering, Railway engineering, Marine engineering and Automotive engineering to Transportation
- Military engineering to Military technology/Weapons
- Sanitary engineering to Food, water and health
- Software engineering to Computing
Lophotrochozoa (talk) 15:34, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- Go ahead. Bluevestman (talk) 20:25, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Add some car stuff
[edit]Noticing we're missing some things.
Add parking meter
[edit]I don't think I need to explain what this is.
- Support
- Oppose
- It’s too specific and detailed to be prioritized unless the traffic quota is actually expanded, or we use this article to talk about broader concepts—like different ways of charging for parking. But clearly, the scope of this article is just that narrow.飞车过大关 (talk) 04:23, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
- Unless they frequently go abroad, Chinese people know little about parking meters. In China, due to later national development and the relatively late popularization of automobiles, parking meters have never been widely adopted. By the time cars became common in China, parking fee collection had already shifted to smarter methods, most commonly Pay-by-phone parking
. Parking lots also use High-pole video capture or geomagnetic sensors to detect vehicles. These detection devices automatically identify the car and, through the IoT, notify the mobile app, which then deducts the payment automatically.飞车过大关 (talk) 04:55, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Major SUV brand.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Please do not accuse me of promoting Americanism or whatever. While these are admittedly mostly an American thing (more specifically a SoCal thing), they are probably the best examples of car modifications, and they both are tied to major subcultures (1950s youth and Chicano respectively).
- Support
- Oppose
- These two US-centric articles have limited scope, making them less important than Custom car
. The subject of Custom car
is clearly more significant, broader, and more globally oriented.飞车过大关 (talk) 05:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Push-button ◎ 5 and Button (computing) 
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Shocked these arent already listed. I dont think I need to explain why these are important enough to include
- Support both
- Support only Push-button
- Support push-button. Oppose button (computing). Bluevestman (talk) 00:11, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
- Only support Push-button, oppose adding Button (computing)
, as I believe it is merely a small subset of Graphical widget
, There are many other Wikipedia articles of equal importance, and given the limited slots for technology-related topics, adding such a specific article is inappropriate.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:31, 28 June 2026 (UTC) - Only support push-button, per 飞车过大关. ARoseThorn (talk) 02:26, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Computer buttons are based on push-buttons in the first place. Dylan240 (talk) 21:44, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support only Button (computing)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:02, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
Add shopping cart
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Important for shopping.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 23:25, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:33, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
- Everyday life topic. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:25, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Kevinishere15 (talk) 14:07, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Standard format for albums from 1948 to 1982. Even if the vinyl revival hadn't occurred, this is still a very important medium.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add amphibious vehicle
[edit]Very important type of vehicle.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add sky lantern
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Used in Asian festivals and early warfare. Also the first type of hot air balloon.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 22:27, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
- I can't believe I missed the vote.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:58, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
- Culturally significant too --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:02, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Very (not really) surprised by this omission. KhaiDo (talk) 13:44, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 23:01, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Swap New Croton Dam with Glen Canyon Dam
[edit]Five interwikis vs twenty. In addition, the latter is important due to being one of the last dam built in the US, as its construction really angered the environmentalists. In contrast, the only importance I can see with the former is providing NYC its water.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Only support remove.飞车过大关 (talk) 07:44, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
An important part in the settlement of the American West.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Move Biometrics ◎ 5 from "Artificial intelligence"
[edit]Pretty obvious move IMO. Biometrics obviously isn't part of artificial intelligence; I assume the only reason it's there is because it's the parent topic to Facial recognition system ◎ 5, whose status as "artificial intelligence" is still weak but at least defensible.
Two places it could be moved:
- Move under "Basics" in "Measurement: general", next to Chronometry ◎ 5 and Telemetry ◎ 5.
- Move (along with Facial recognition system ◎ 5) to "Computer security", as the primary use of biometrics is for computer Authentication ◎ 4.
- Support move to measurement
- As nom. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:51, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support move to computer security
- As nom. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:51, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support other move
- Oppose
- Discuss
ARoseThorn (talk) 03:51, 15 July 2026 (UTC) Which one do you support the most? Bluevestman (talk) 19:13, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- I think facial recognition should be listed under Computer vision ◎ 5. ~2026-45985-49 (talk) 23:05, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
One of the first mechanical calculators.
- Support
- Oppose
- Support adding Mechanical calculator
instead. KhaiDo (talk) 13:49, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
The first commercially successful steam engine.
- Support
- Oppose
- Swap with Thomas Newcomen ◎ 5 or oppose.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Sound effect
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Directly under Media and communication: Basics
- Support
- p.n. 3df (talk) 05:25, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:47, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- Kevinishere15 (talk) 17:14, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2026 (UTC)
- Fundemental to not only user interfaces, it's also fundemental in providing feedback. Dylan240 (talk) 05:14, 1 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Turtle (submersible)
[edit]Arguably the first submarine.
- Support
- Oppose
- Selecting the 'number-one-in-history' items from Level 5 articles, there are enough of them to fill a separate list of at least a hundred slots.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add macadam and John Loudon McAdam
[edit]How we build road currently. We can also add the person who invented it as well.
- Support
- Oppose
- The former is less significant than Road surface
. As for the latter, the existing proposals to add scientists and inventors already exceed the remaining quota several times over. Merely being a Western engineer who pioneered a concept not currently on the Level 5 list is far from sufficient for inclusion. Furthermore, according to the Macadam article, a certain Scottish inventor can't even be considered the inventor of the road—this is pure hyperbole.飞车过大关 (talk) 19:20, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
- The article Road surface
seems to suggest that this is not how we build road currently. ~2026-42373-62 (talk) 23:45, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
Add water turbine
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Referring to an earlier proposal, maybe this would be better?
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 01:16, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:22, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- Dylan240 (talk) 06:17, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- KhaiDo (talk) 14:42, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
First inter-city railway.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Airport swaps
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Partly based on the list of busiest airports by international passenger traffic and list of busiest airports by passenger traffic, which include statistics from 2011 to 2025. I prioritized considering the number of international over total passengers, as that would be a much better reflection of economic power.
Schiphol clears in both international and total passengers, consistenly ranks in the top 5 of the former category globally. It is also one of the world's oldest continuously operating commercial airports, just 9 years shy of the record holder Hamburg Airport.
- Support
- KhaiDo (talk) 18:44, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:25, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
- Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Swap Los Angeles International Airport
for Changi Airport ◎ 5
[edit]LAX has nowhere nearly as many international passengers as John F. Kennedy International Airport ◎ 5 and nowhere nearly as many domestic ones as Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport ◎ 5. Its importance is closer to that of O'Hare International Airport
. Changi Airport has consistently led Southeast Asia as one of the top 10 busiest in the world by international passengers, and has been ranked by Skytrax as the world's best airport 14 times.
- Support
- KhaiDo (talk) 18:44, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 19:27, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
- Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Partial Support
- Support add, oppose removal. Although LAX isn't as important or as busy as changi airport, LAX is still one of the busiest airports in the world, and served 76 million passengers in 2024, making it still one of the busiest airports in the world. Dylan240 (talk) 01:53, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- The majority of which are domestic. I think having two US airports that primarily serve domestic passengers (ATL and LAX) is pretty US-centric. And again, looking at the numbers, LAX is way closer to ORD than ATL. KhaiDo (talk) 03:45, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Still believe we underrepresent airports in general. Per Dylan.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:18, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
KhaiDo (talk) 18:44, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
Add HMS Beagle
[edit]Known for its survey expeditions, particularly it's second with Charles Darwin ◎ 3.
- Support
- Oppose
- Not important than The Voyage of the Beagle
.飞车过大关 (talk) 18:39, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Pony Express
[edit]Admittedly not a successful mail service (the business died literally two days after the first transcontinental telegraph was installed) but still an iconic symbol of the Wild West.
- Support
- Oppose
- I would much prefer an article that covers horseback postal delivery across the world from ancient times to the present (like Post riders or Mail delivery by animal), rather than using a postal‑history concept that lasted less than 18 months and whose significance is heavily tied to popular culture.飞车过大关 (talk) 08:06, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
- Per above, would prefer Cursus publicus
(which lasted hundreds of yeas) for example before this.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:25, 14 August 2026 (UTC) - Dylan240 (talk) 09:56, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Necessary for the removal of snow.
- Support
- Oppose
- It seems less deserving of inclusion in the Level 5 list than Winter service vehicle
or Snow removal
.飞车过大关 (talk) 14:44, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Hello, world
[edit]"Hello, world" is software’s universal learning milestone — splains (💬/📝) 20:47, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- Famous but kind of trivial. I'd rather use the new available slots for missing more fundamental programming/computing topics such as Instruction cycle
, Memory management
, Integer (computer science)
String (computer science)
, Conditional (computer programming)
, Loop (statement)
, Operator (computer programming)
and Hardware description language
.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:59, 22 August 2026 (UTC) - Requesting to add such an article is like requesting that "1+1
" be listed as the most important article in mathematics, or that "OK
" be listed as an important article on the English Wikipedia—it may seem crucial, but in fact it undermines the encyclopedic nature of the list.飞车过大关 (talk) 11:20, 22 August 2026 (UTC) - Hello World! is really just a demonstration of language's text output syntax only, such as console.log(Hello world!) or document.querySelector("#element").innerHTML = "Hello world!" for JavaScript, and is too specific to be listed at level 5, and per LaukkuTheGreit, there are better candates for the level 5 title, such as loop statements such as for, while, forEach, and more. Dylan240 (talk) 01:11, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
So we apparently we have a section for energy-related structures, with the Continental Europe Synchronous Area being its only article. Now, I'm not sure if we need this section, but regardless I think the Battersea Power Station would be a better fit. Admittedly, it's largely known for being on the cover of Pink Floyd ◎ 4's Animals (which is not one of their three albums we have on here), but it is one of the largest buildings made from brick.
- Support
- Oppose
- Only support remove (Wide area synchronous grid ◎ 5 is enough).飞车过大关 (talk) 11:30, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
- The Continental Europe Synchronous Area is important in terms of energy distribution. The other building is only notable for its architecture, and not really important for that either. ~2026-45985-49 (talk) 05:01, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
Replace T-top ◎ 5 with Road safety 
[edit]T-top is a quite minor type of car design feature. While Convertible ◎ 5 is vital, T-top hardly has the same importance. Road safety involves things like Speed limit, Traffic light ◎ 5, Stop sign ◎ 5, Roundabout, Pedestrian crossing ◎ 5, Bike lane ◎ 5, etc. and is commonly encountered in daily life. ~2026-45985-49 (talk) 23:23, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Support
- Support remove-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:15, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Support all.飞车过大关 (talk) 09:29, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- KhaiDo (talk) 09:30, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
First practical automobile.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 00:49, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Not sure if this is the best place to nominate this.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Hall–Héroult process
[edit]"…the major industrial process for smelting aluminium."
- Support
- Oppose
- There are no remaining slots on the Level 5 technology list, and this article can't possibly be more important than Aluminium smelting
.飞车过大关 (talk) 20:41, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add roundabout
[edit]One major way to control traffic.
- Support
- Bluevestman (talk) 01:18, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Commonplace across the world, and in my country of Trinidad and Tobago. Dylan240 (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- KhaiDo (talk) 06:02, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- "Compared to stop signs, traffic signals, and earlier forms of roundabouts, modern roundabouts reduce the likelihood and severity of collisions greatly"--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:12, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- The parent would be Road junction ◎ 5. Intersection (road) ◎ 5 and Interchange (road) ◎ 5 seem to be the main ones. Whereas this is not mentioned. Stop sign ◎ 5 and Traffic light ◎ 5 seem more important.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:32, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- This is VA5, you seem to be arguing against adding to VA4 as those are already listed on this level.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:12, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- I am arguing that the parent is only VA 5 and that it is less important than other syblings and cousins that are level 5.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:30, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- This is VA5, you seem to be arguing against adding to VA4 as those are already listed on this level.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:12, 6 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add deep fryer
[edit]Important for Deep frying ◎ 5.
- Support
- Oppose
- Redundant. We should not add a cooking device mostly found in commercial fast food chains when a common household appliance such as the air fryer is a redirect. KhaiDo (talk) 09:21, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- is deep fryer not also a common household appliance? Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Generally speaking, they are much less common outside the US. KhaiDo (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2026 (UTC)
- is deep fryer not also a common household appliance? Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 03:51, 17 September 2026 (UTC)
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I was a bit surprised to not find this listed at all. This is the go-to place for creators on the Internet to monetize their work through self-configured subscription services. We already have PayPal ◎ 5, we can probably afford to have this on the list too.
- Support
- As nom. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/it • talk • edits) 13:21, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Bluevestman (talk) 20:12, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Not important than Crowdfunding
. And I also believe that adding this article while the quota issue is already in effect is riddled with both recency bias and Western-centric bias.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:00, 9 September 2026 (UTC) - I would support crowdfunding instead, simply because I know some countries prefer using their own crowdfunding websites instead. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- KhaiDo (talk) 13:54, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Aqueduct of Segovia
[edit]World Heritage Site.
- Support
- Oppose
- I will firmly oppose any proposal that disregards the quota issue and floods nominations to directly add World Heritage Sites within a single month. On top of that, the Level 5 list doesn't even include Segovia
or Aqueduct
.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Aqueduct is a disambiguation page, so that clearly wouldn't be vital. ~2026-45985-49 (talk) 17:16, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, my esteemed Mr. Anonymous, so clever of you to spot a disambiguation page! Clearly too well-read to glance at Aqueduct (bridge)
or Roman aqueduct
, yet you have time to refute me. I gather you must be monitoring the edit history to share such timely "insights."飞车过大关 (talk) 18:26, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, my esteemed Mr. Anonymous, so clever of you to spot a disambiguation page! Clearly too well-read to glance at Aqueduct (bridge)
- Aqueduct is a disambiguation page, so that clearly wouldn't be vital. ~2026-45985-49 (talk) 17:16, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
Have absolutely no idea where to place this. A collection of nineteen astronomical instruments, including the largest sundial in the world. World Heritage Site.
- Support
- Oppose
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Add Afsluitdijk
[edit]Fundamental part of the Zuiderzee Works ◎ 5.
- Support
- Fine with swapping with Zuiderzee Works.
- Oppose
- A thoroughly Western-centric proposal, and the importance of Zuiderzee Works ◎ 5 is even confined to just the Level 5 list.飞车过大关 (talk) 17:12, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
My reasoning is that Cut, copy and paste is a level 5 vital and mid-importance in computing, while download is top-importance. Pinging Lophotrochozoa, who asked me to make the proposal here - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:43, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Support
- OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:43, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- I went ahead and put yourself down as a support vote. Tt2460 (talk) 16:33, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks! :D - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 16:47, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:33, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
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This is when a URL ◎ 5 leads to a 404 not found page and/or an inaccessible website. This becomes an increasing issue with online research. A study from 2015 has shown that up to nearly half of URL citations become rotten.[1] While we're at it, we could probably list the Wayback Machine
and/or Web archiving
.
- Support
- As nom. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/it • talk • edits) 01:37, 20 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- I oppose adding "Link rot" to the Level 5 list. As a descriptive term, it is by no means one of the most important concepts in network technology or library science. It reflects a narrow, Internet-user-centric view while ignoring the network system as a whole. The concept itself is too trivial to justify a scarce slot under the limited quota. It is also clearly less important than Digital Preservation
, Data Preservation
, and Data Recovery
…飞车过大关 (talk) 13:37, 20 September 2026 (UTC)
- Moreover, the Internet has existed for only a few decades. Why should we single out narrow content about Internet archiving while ignoring the broader preservation of books, artifacts, and media? Why should we regard the concept of dead links as more important than that of lost media or lost ancient books?飞车过大关 (talk) 13:37, 20 September 2026 (UTC)
- Discuss
References
- ↑ Kuvempu University; Kumar, D Vinay; Kumar, B T Sampath; Tumkur University; Parameshwarappa, D R; Apollo Hospitals (2015). "URLs Link Rot: Implications for Electronic Publishing". World Digital Libraries - An International Journal. 8 (1). doi:10.18329/09757597/2015/8105. Retrieved 20 September 2026.
Ancient record-keeping system used by many Andean civilizations ◎ 3, most notably the Inca Empire ◎ 3. There are still around under 1,400 extant quipus, some are still used by some herders and rural communities, hence why I nominated it here instead of on the History talk page. Could go under Communication technology.
- Support
- Oppose
- Discuss
Important, ubiquitous forms of Data type ◎ 5 in software programming.
- Support
- As nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:26, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- Was thinking of this. KhaiDo (talk) 10:22, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- Support string. Boolean data type seems redundant with Bit ◎ 4. Not sure why we need this and Integer ◎ 3-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:39, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Backpropagation 
[edit]Fundamental technique in Machine learning ◎ 4 to adjust the weights of a neural network.
- Support
- As nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:34, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Memory management 
[edit]Big topic area in computing.
- Support
- As nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 08:57, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Tool used to remove the outer layer of some vegetables such as potatoes, broccoli stalks, and carrots, and fruits such as apples and pears. Required for many dishes
- Support
- Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 18:33, 25 September 2026 (UTC)
- 飞车过大关 (talk) 18:42, 26 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss